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Len and Burke
Posted on 6/21/13 at 10:54 am
Posted on 6/21/13 at 10:54 am
These 2 guys have become ingrained in our head as the two top choices for the Pels in the draft. Most mocks have or had us taking 1 or the other at some point.
However, there is a chance these two could be off the board with the first 2 picks in the draft. There are heavy rumors that CLE likes Len a lot and of course Burke has been rumored off and on to ORL since the onset.
Now lets circle the Pelican talk wagon... Months ago, we had some good discussions on guys like Porter, Noel, Oladipo, and McClemore. They seem to be long forgotten.
So what about these guys now? Porter obviously makes the most sense considering our needs. But it seems many people have warmed up to the idea of adding depth (see trey burke). Are guys like Dipo and McClemore still welcomed additions? What about Noel? He wouldn't need to be on the floor right away considering our depth at the center spot.
I know Burke and Len are good players. But is anyone else with me in hoping they go before we pick, enabling one of these other guys to drop?
However, there is a chance these two could be off the board with the first 2 picks in the draft. There are heavy rumors that CLE likes Len a lot and of course Burke has been rumored off and on to ORL since the onset.
Now lets circle the Pelican talk wagon... Months ago, we had some good discussions on guys like Porter, Noel, Oladipo, and McClemore. They seem to be long forgotten.
So what about these guys now? Porter obviously makes the most sense considering our needs. But it seems many people have warmed up to the idea of adding depth (see trey burke). Are guys like Dipo and McClemore still welcomed additions? What about Noel? He wouldn't need to be on the floor right away considering our depth at the center spot.
I know Burke and Len are good players. But is anyone else with me in hoping they go before we pick, enabling one of these other guys to drop?
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Posted on 6/21/13 at 10:58 am to GynoSandberg
McLemore would be a welcome addition because we need scorers and, with Gordon as fragile as he's been, we may need a spot starter.
Oladipo would depend on what we think about his offensive development and whether he would be a 2 or a 3 at the next level. I'm thinking he'd be a defensive 2 along the lines of a Tony Allen or Avery Bradley.
Porter's an obvious fit because we have jackshit at the 3.
I'm more torn on Noel. Good defensive presence but does he project as a 4 or a 5 at the next level? Also, what is the best guess on his offensive potential?
If he's a Ben Wallace who is great on defense and can't shoot for shite, we need to make sure that we're getting great production out of the other four guys on the court.
Oladipo would depend on what we think about his offensive development and whether he would be a 2 or a 3 at the next level. I'm thinking he'd be a defensive 2 along the lines of a Tony Allen or Avery Bradley.
Porter's an obvious fit because we have jackshit at the 3.
I'm more torn on Noel. Good defensive presence but does he project as a 4 or a 5 at the next level? Also, what is the best guess on his offensive potential?
If he's a Ben Wallace who is great on defense and can't shoot for shite, we need to make sure that we're getting great production out of the other four guys on the court.
Posted on 6/21/13 at 11:02 am to GynoSandberg
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McLemore, Porter, Noel, Oladipo
If Burke and Len are picked, that means players that I consider to be better prospects (better than Burke, at least) fell. I'd be pretty happy.
McLemore would obviously be first before anyone else. He falls we absolutely run to the podium. He has the most star potential, in my mind, of any player in the draft.
After that Porter because of need. I don't find him to be overly great at anything, but he could be one of those players that is just good at everything but great at nothing. Every team needs that.
Then I guess its Noel. Guy has superb athletic talent. But the knee injury, his availability and the fit next to Davis all leave me with question marks. Total boom or bust. But I would still take him.
Oladipo I'm not interested in.
Posted on 6/21/13 at 11:21 am to GynoSandberg
I'll be doing cartwheels if Len and Burke are taken in the top 5.
I don't see how you can pass on Noel. He's got mega-potential. Like you said, 230lbs pre-injury. People forget these kids are 18-19 years old and still have plenty of room to fill-out. Heck, Dwight Howard has put on 25 lbs since he was drafted.
Given the choice of those 3, I'd have to rank:
1- Noel (based on need for Center)
2- McLemore
3- Porter
I'm not a huge fan of Burke (would rather CJ) and just not sold on Len.
I don't see how you can pass on Noel. He's got mega-potential. Like you said, 230lbs pre-injury. People forget these kids are 18-19 years old and still have plenty of room to fill-out. Heck, Dwight Howard has put on 25 lbs since he was drafted.
Given the choice of those 3, I'd have to rank:
1- Noel (based on need for Center)
2- McLemore
3- Porter
I'm not a huge fan of Burke (would rather CJ) and just not sold on Len.
Posted on 6/21/13 at 6:06 pm to GynoSandberg
I dont particularly care whom they pick at 6.
Any of those guys- w/ perhaps the exception of Bennett- seem like good fits. I'm still hoping they get a second pick somewhere- 1st, 2nd, whatever. They need talent everywhere.
I'll be happy when this week is over and we can move on to over analyzing summer league.
Any of those guys- w/ perhaps the exception of Bennett- seem like good fits. I'm still hoping they get a second pick somewhere- 1st, 2nd, whatever. They need talent everywhere.
I'll be happy when this week is over and we can move on to over analyzing summer league.
Posted on 6/21/13 at 6:40 pm to GynoSandberg
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But is anyone else with me in hoping they go before we pick, enabling one of these other guys to drop?
If the Pelicans end up with either Oladipo or Noel, I would give them an A for the draft. Would be extremely happy.
Posted on 6/22/13 at 12:06 pm to GynoSandberg
I think my ideal draft is Porter falling to 6, Minny trading with Phoenix to draft Oladipo at 5 which would hopefully let KCP fall to 13. Do the Marion for 13 swap and you have a stop gap SF while Porter gets his feet wet and KCP is at worst a good 6th man and at best the guy that lets you end the Gordon era.
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