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Why it will be difficult for Robinson to sign with LSU
Posted on 6/15/13 at 10:26 pm
Posted on 6/15/13 at 10:26 pm
In the last 6 drafts LSU has had 2 OL taken:
Herman Johnson - out of the league
Joe Barksdale - barely hanging on
If you were a young man basing your football future on this one decision, would you go to LSU? Forget about state pride, this is a business decision for prospects at his level.
Herman Johnson - out of the league
Joe Barksdale - barely hanging on
If you were a young man basing your football future on this one decision, would you go to LSU? Forget about state pride, this is a business decision for prospects at his level.
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Posted on 6/15/13 at 10:27 pm to lsucjn
Sky is falling etc. derp
Posted on 6/15/13 at 10:28 pm to lsucjn
Well considering stud was the oc for the last few years I think it would be different now with cam
Posted on 6/15/13 at 10:34 pm to lsucjn
Meh, if you have talent, you'll go as high as it will take you....Look at this years draft....
Posted on 6/15/13 at 11:10 pm to lsucjn
Posted on 6/15/13 at 11:11 pm to lsucjn
The name to watch throughout this whole process is Bakarri Guice. He was Cams middle school coach, Shows hired him when the transfer To WM went down. He is current DB coach at WM. Last 2 years has worked Bama camp. If Saban told him to slob his knob he'd drop to his knees on the spot. Also a candidate for Bama new player personnel director.
In other words this is the bag man for Bama to C Rob
BTW: here is C Rob latest tweet
@crobinson_68: Big homie David Cornwell just hit me up!
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This post was edited on 6/15 at 9:02 pm
In other words this is the bag man for Bama to C Rob
BTW: here is C Rob latest tweet
@crobinson_68: Big homie David Cornwell just hit me up!
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This post was edited on 6/15 at 9:02 pm
Posted on 6/15/13 at 11:13 pm to lsucjn
quote:
Why it will be difficult for Robinson to sign with LSU
nick saban cuts the fax line on signing day?
Posted on 6/15/13 at 11:30 pm to lsucjn
quote:Thanks for this incredible insight. Like Jamal said, Robinson would be drafted if he went to ULM.
Posted by lsucjn In the last 6 drafts LSU has had 2 OL taken: Herman Johnson - out of the league Joe Barksdale - barely hanging on If you were a young man basing your football future on this one decision, would you go to LSU? Forget about state pride, this is a business decision for prospects at his level.
Please, post less.
Posted on 6/15/13 at 11:47 pm to lsucjn
Faulk was rated as a 1st to 2nd round pick before the injury. Hurst was rated as a 3rd-4th round pick before his personal issues happened. Williford was also rated as a 4th round pick before the concussions, he was probably going to declare if the injury at Florida didn't happen. La'el is rated as the #2 OG in his class, after only one year starting. His best NFL potential is at guard, which is becoming way more recognized in the NFL these days. Trai Turner is rated the #5 guard after only half a season. Alexander is rated the #4 OT.
These new guys have far more potential than Dworazyck, Blackwell, Hebert, Black, Johnson, Stewart, Barksdale, etc... had. Can't blame the coaches for random freak injuries. Nor for turning defensive linemen into really good SEC offensive linemen, including a couple all-americans.
Stud even had a linemen drafted from Bowling Green that was a starter for several years in the NFL.
Now look up Mario Cristobal's success with offensive linemen and compare the differences. I'll make it easy for you. In over 10 years he hasn't gotten a single offensive linemen drafted in the NFL. Sorry but I'm not worried, even if Robinson goes to Bama. Miles/Stud>>>>>>Cristobal. Their resume and experience proves it.
The O line for LSU this year will be one of the best in the country.
Y'all pessimists have fun
These new guys have far more potential than Dworazyck, Blackwell, Hebert, Black, Johnson, Stewart, Barksdale, etc... had. Can't blame the coaches for random freak injuries. Nor for turning defensive linemen into really good SEC offensive linemen, including a couple all-americans.
Stud even had a linemen drafted from Bowling Green that was a starter for several years in the NFL.
Now look up Mario Cristobal's success with offensive linemen and compare the differences. I'll make it easy for you. In over 10 years he hasn't gotten a single offensive linemen drafted in the NFL. Sorry but I'm not worried, even if Robinson goes to Bama. Miles/Stud>>>>>>Cristobal. Their resume and experience proves it.
The O line for LSU this year will be one of the best in the country.
Y'all pessimists have funPosted on 6/16/13 at 12:04 am to lsucjn
I just copied my post from the other thread giving my reasons why Cam will be incredibly difficult to sign at this point and it has absolutely nothing to do with success in the draft. LSU just had former W. Monroe standout KeKe Mingo go higher in the draft than any bama player and people are acting like Robinson hasn't noticed this.
There is a post on the 247 board laying out the roles of Bakari Guice and Cam's "uncles" Kenny and Bub in Cam Robinson's recruitment. Those guys couldn't care less about LSU when they're benefitting by taking guys like Cam on trips to bama. It may look like an innocent trip to camp, but from what I understand, there's more to it than that.
I'm not saying they wouldn't drive him to LSU if he wanted them to, but Saban has been offering hs coaches jobs as "player personnel" staff members in return for delivering their star players to bama. There are more than 25 hs coaches who have current or former players at bama that are on bama's staff. All the hs coach has to do is drive the players to bama as often as possible, encourage that player to see things the bama way, and there are incentives being offered for their roles in the situation.
It's a really shady business and other schools have attempted to put a stop to the new rule allowing these practices, but it has only been temporarily suspended, which isn't stopping Saban and the REC from providing incentives to hs coaches.
This new rule allowing unlimited staff members is the work of Emmert, who owes most of his notoriety and success to Saban, so he will always do whatever he can to give Saban an advantage.
At least we all know that Emmert is on borrowed time because his tenure as NCAA has been a disaster, but during that time, it's been quite clear to everyone that Saban is holding all of the cards.
This is a key part of the reason that bama can get mulligans in the bcs championship, dictate the schedules and basically own espn. Because people that realize what's going on understand that bama will remain on top as long as the present system is in place.
They will also continue to throw resources at our very best players because we are a constant threat. This is why mods are predicting someone like Fournette to bama even though there has been absolutely no indication of that.
Les and co. will have to be fantastic at what they do and maybe a little bit lucky to overcome all of this bullshite that is piling up right under their noses.
There is a post on the 247 board laying out the roles of Bakari Guice and Cam's "uncles" Kenny and Bub in Cam Robinson's recruitment. Those guys couldn't care less about LSU when they're benefitting by taking guys like Cam on trips to bama. It may look like an innocent trip to camp, but from what I understand, there's more to it than that.
I'm not saying they wouldn't drive him to LSU if he wanted them to, but Saban has been offering hs coaches jobs as "player personnel" staff members in return for delivering their star players to bama. There are more than 25 hs coaches who have current or former players at bama that are on bama's staff. All the hs coach has to do is drive the players to bama as often as possible, encourage that player to see things the bama way, and there are incentives being offered for their roles in the situation.
It's a really shady business and other schools have attempted to put a stop to the new rule allowing these practices, but it has only been temporarily suspended, which isn't stopping Saban and the REC from providing incentives to hs coaches.
This new rule allowing unlimited staff members is the work of Emmert, who owes most of his notoriety and success to Saban, so he will always do whatever he can to give Saban an advantage.
At least we all know that Emmert is on borrowed time because his tenure as NCAA has been a disaster, but during that time, it's been quite clear to everyone that Saban is holding all of the cards.
This is a key part of the reason that bama can get mulligans in the bcs championship, dictate the schedules and basically own espn. Because people that realize what's going on understand that bama will remain on top as long as the present system is in place.
They will also continue to throw resources at our very best players because we are a constant threat. This is why mods are predicting someone like Fournette to bama even though there has been absolutely no indication of that.
Les and co. will have to be fantastic at what they do and maybe a little bit lucky to overcome all of this bullshite that is piling up right under their noses.
This post was edited on 6/16/13 at 12:05 am
Posted on 6/16/13 at 6:42 am to lsucjn
2 things for recruits to consider, with one already fact and the other yet to be determined:
1. Much has been said about Saban getting his players ready for the next level. Now, look at the number of elite players he has in the NFL. Not many, even though his squads have been loaded with 4/5* recruits. Also look at the pieces of crap who came out of his program feeling entitled and either out of the league or having trouble with coaches.
2. If Cam's can develop our guys on the offensive side of the ball and we're ranked even in the top 40 in the country, offensive recruits will give us a lot more consideration.
1. Much has been said about Saban getting his players ready for the next level. Now, look at the number of elite players he has in the NFL. Not many, even though his squads have been loaded with 4/5* recruits. Also look at the pieces of crap who came out of his program feeling entitled and either out of the league or having trouble with coaches.
2. If Cam's can develop our guys on the offensive side of the ball and we're ranked even in the top 40 in the country, offensive recruits will give us a lot more consideration.
Posted on 6/16/13 at 6:50 am to lsucjn
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In the last 6 drafts LSU has had 2 OL taken:
Herman Johnson - out of the league
Joe Barksdale - barely hanging on
If you were a young man basing your football future on this one decision, would you go to LSU? Forget about state pride, this is a business decision for prospects at his level.
You couldn't post this negativity in the other Cam thread tho?
Posted on 6/16/13 at 7:09 am to lsucjn
You're a tard. Go post on the Bammer recruiting site. Alter
Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:06 am to lsucjn
Wow, that's really insightful, it's amazing no one has brought that up before like hundred million times.
LSU has not had the NFL caliber talent in the OL over the last few years that Alabama has had. Whether that is evaluation, recruiting or the simple fact that the state hasn't produced a lot of NFL type OLmen over the years or some combo of the 3 is debatable, but its not because the OL coaching is so bad that players are held back
Faulk probably would have been drafted had he not gotten hurt and he did sign a FA deal. Collins will the be the test case, he was a highly ranked recruit and we will see where he gets drafted.
Johnson and Barksdale did make the league, how they do there is up to them.
LSU has not had the NFL caliber talent in the OL over the last few years that Alabama has had. Whether that is evaluation, recruiting or the simple fact that the state hasn't produced a lot of NFL type OLmen over the years or some combo of the 3 is debatable, but its not because the OL coaching is so bad that players are held back
Faulk probably would have been drafted had he not gotten hurt and he did sign a FA deal. Collins will the be the test case, he was a highly ranked recruit and we will see where he gets drafted.
Johnson and Barksdale did make the league, how they do there is up to them.
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