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Ingram faced 8 man box 25.6% of the time last year, good for 8th in the NFL

Posted on 5/9/13 at 4:59 am
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
26725 posts
Posted on 5/9/13 at 4:59 am
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Interesting. It's like they knew he was in to run the ball...



For comparison, Pierre Thomas was 36th in the league with 12.38% being his number.
This post was edited on 5/9/13 at 5:02 am
Posted by jorconalx
alexandria
Member since Aug 2011
9145 posts
Posted on 5/9/13 at 6:15 am to
easy there, this board doesn't like facts or statistics, especially when it doesn't support their irrational hate.
Posted by THRILLHO
Metry, LA
Member since Apr 2006
49721 posts
Posted on 5/9/13 at 6:20 am to
PFF had a tweet yesterday saying PT and Peterson were the only two in the NFL with a higher YPC against 8 men in the box than they did 7.
Posted by rondo
Worst. Poster. Evar.
Member since Jan 2004
77444 posts
Posted on 5/9/13 at 7:12 am to
i have always contended that the Saints telkegraph its a running play when Ingram is in the game.


When Pierre or Sproles are in, its more than likely a passing play. So when they do run its not with a loaded box.

Ingrams in? Load it up.


Playcalling has a lot to do with Ingrams struggles.
Posted by JPLIII
Broussard - terd supporter
Member since Jan 2008
22630 posts
Posted on 5/9/13 at 7:13 am to
Because no one respects our passing game.
Posted by bigpapamac
Mobile, AL
Member since Oct 2007
22424 posts
Posted on 5/9/13 at 7:33 am to
Yea the playcalling put him beind the 8-ball. I'd bet he ran the ball 95% of the plays he was in there, and NFL coaches and defenses don't have to be too smart to figure that trend out.
Posted by hg
Member since Jun 2009
125258 posts
Posted on 5/9/13 at 7:41 am to
Because he's turrible
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38261 posts
Posted on 5/9/13 at 9:07 am to
The first half of his rookie season was pretty annoyingly obvious. If he was in, they were running it. I still have no idea why he was penned as our short yardage or "bruiser" back. While he can absolutely run between the tackles, he's more nimble than you realize. Payton started to figure it out down the stretch and I remember Ingram really busting out in that home Giants game, but then he got injured.
And then last year it seems like they went right back to predictable playcalling. From a few recent comments, it seems like the ground game will have a renewed focus. Thankfully, Bc this team is really at its best when we run it down the opponents throats.
Posted by Melvin
Member since Apr 2011
23535 posts
Posted on 5/9/13 at 10:14 am to
He's not a very good receiver out of the backfield and he's subpar in pass protection so they knew to stack the box when he was in because he's not an option in the passing game. I do like how this caused teams to bite hard on play action when we started noticing this trend toward the end of the season though
Posted by LooseCannon22282
Mobile
Member since May 2008
34192 posts
Posted on 5/9/13 at 10:35 am to
ah, the premium stats

I thought I saw another one showing how much the Saints throw it when Sproles is in the game...

it was a pretty high percentage.
Posted by Wideman
Arlington, Virginia
Member since Jul 2005
11721 posts
Posted on 5/9/13 at 12:22 pm to
quote:

Ingram faced 8 man box 25.6% of the time last year, good for 8th in the NFL


And of the seven guys who faced a greater percentage of 8-man fronts, only Ryan Mathews (3.8 ypc) had fewer yards per carry than Ingram (3.9 ypc).

So...
Posted by Jumbeauxlaya
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
18083 posts
Posted on 5/9/13 at 1:13 pm to
quote:

Interesting. It's like they knew he was in to run the ball...


Exactly, which is why it was just pure idiocy to continue to do it.
Posted by jdg91878
Do overs+Opinion poll politics =MNC
Member since Oct 2010
3742 posts
Posted on 5/9/13 at 5:39 pm to
Ingram still sucks so what's your point.

Love that bama actually claims that screw job from 2011 as a title. They should give that title to the rec
This post was edited on 5/9/13 at 5:45 pm
Posted by BayouFann
CenLa
Member since Jun 2012
6925 posts
Posted on 5/9/13 at 9:22 pm to
hope the staff gets ingram involved more in receiving out of the backfield.
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81284 posts
Posted on 5/9/13 at 9:43 pm to
Ingram was also #1 in the league in sucking fricking dick.
Posted by iliveinabox
in a box
Member since Aug 2011
24120 posts
Posted on 5/10/13 at 5:38 am to
can Ingram not catch?
Posted by PokerPlayingTiger
Member since Jan 2007
2745 posts
Posted on 5/10/13 at 5:21 pm to
quote:

For comparison, Pierre Thomas was 36th in the league with 12.38% being his number.


This is a direct result of being one of the best RBs in the NFL at catching the ball out of the backfield. Pierre's flexibility which keeps defenses on their heels is the same reason why we can't throw the ball 70% of the time and hope to be a dominant team. Offensive balance equates to success both for individuals as well as teams.
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