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Some Politics Face Better 2014 Prospects Following Gun Vote
Posted on 5/2/13 at 4:35 pm
Posted on 5/2/13 at 4:35 pm
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Sen. Mary Landrieu's (D-La.) numbers rose following her vote in favor of background checks. (AP Photo/Manuel Balce Ceneta, File)
WASHINGTON -- Mary Landrieu should've been the tip-off. The Louisiana Democrat is well known for having a fine-tuned political antenna, but the senator's recent vote in favor of expanding background checks for gun purchasing surprised some observers.
A few weeks later, Landrieu's calculation appears to have been the correct one -- opponents of background checks are tanking in polls, while backers are surging.
A new survey from Public Policy Polling shows that voters are more likely to vote to reelect Landrieu and Sen. Kay Hagan (D-N.C.), two red-state Democrats up for reelection in 2014. Hagan also voted in favor of expanding background checks. Forty-four percent of likely voters are more likely to vote for Landrieu, while 26 percent are less likely. In North Carolina, 52 percent of voters are more likely to vote for Hagan, while 26 percent are less likely.
This is BS Louisiana
Posted on 5/2/13 at 4:37 pm to Nascar Fan
BULLSHITE
The poll is being manipulated.
She will suffer for her vote come re-election time.
The poll is being manipulated.
She will suffer for her vote come re-election time.
Posted on 5/2/13 at 4:41 pm to MoreOrLes
quote:
The poll is being manipulated.
My first thought
Posted on 5/2/13 at 4:48 pm to Nascar Fan
Its a very manipulated poll designed to get that very outcome.
I Posted the actual question in a thread on the political board.
I Posted the actual question in a thread on the political board.
Posted on 5/2/13 at 4:51 pm to skuter
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Large majorities of voters in both states favor background checks. Seventy-three percent of North Carolinians support them, while 71 percent of Louisiana voters back them.
"I'm confident that most people understand the importance of closing this loophole while preserving the rights of law abiding individuals to own and use guns for hunting, sport and self-protection," Landrieu said on her vote.
It's gotta be bullshite but it's on Huff Post Politics for all the world to see
Posted on 5/2/13 at 4:54 pm to Nascar Fan
I don't know, NF. Yall have a lot of 47%ers concentrated in big voting blocks down there. I don't live there and we've got our own idiot politicians here, too. I hope the poll is wrong, but a lot of us believed Joshua Chamberlain, too...
Posted on 5/2/13 at 5:54 pm to BFIV
Got a response from her office for sending out 100s of emails in the past few weeks. She has a few outright lies in her response. I'll bold them.
quote:
Dear Mr. Bapple:
As many of our license plates say, Louisiana is a sportsman's paradise. I admire and respect our state's love of the outdoors, particularly hunting and fishing - both time honored sports and traditions. I firmly believe that the right to own firearms for any lawful purpose as expressed in the Second Amendment is resolute. In no way can we allow that right to be taken away or infringed upon. One sad reality, however, is that our country is plagued by gun violence and Louisiana has the nation's highest death rate per capita by gunfire. Now is the time to consider solutions to the growing gun violence in our country while reinforcing our right as Americans to own guns for self-protection or sport.
I supported the amendment offered by Senators Manchin and Toomey which eliminated a major loophole by requiring background checks on firearm sales at gun shows and on all commercial sales made over the internet or advertised in any commercial publication. The Manchin-Toomey amendment was balanced and bipartisan. It would have created a way to limit the transfer of guns between non-familiar individuals without a background check, but did not restrict the ability to transfer guns between family, friends, or even members of the same church. Criminal background checks today are only required if a gun is purchased through or from a licensed gun dealer. This amendment was a step in the right direction because it would have benefited the approximately 950 licensed gun dealers in Louisiana by closing this dangerous loophole and eliminating the unfair advantage now enjoyed by unlicensed commercial online dealers.
In addition, it also included these important measures for the benefit of gun owners: allowing a gun owner to carry a locked weapon across state lines, important to many law enforcement officials; allowing conceal and carry cards to satisfy background check requirements; clarifying purchasing opportunities for military members and veterans; increasing punishment for straw purchasers; increasing gun owners' privacy by strictly prohibiting the creation of a national gun registry; and improving programs related to mental health and substance use disorders.
During the gun debate on the U.S. Senate floor, a total of nine amendments were offered to the underlying legislation, including Senator Feinstein's assault weapons ban and Senator Lautenberg's amendment to restrict the number of bullets in a magazine. I voted against both of these amendments.
I understand that there is no simple answer to addressing this issue, but I do know that inaction is not the solution. I have and will continue to support legislation that protects our Second Amendment rights and ones that I believe will effectively curb gun violence in our country. I appreciate hearing from you on this important issue, and I trust you will continue to contact me on matters of mutual concern. Please feel free to visit my website at LINK for additional information on my legislative priorities important to our state.
With warm regards, I am
Sincerely,
Mary Landrieu United States Senator
Posted on 5/2/13 at 6:04 pm to bapple
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increasing punishment for straw purchasers
This will never work...You can multiply the punishment by 1000...until you actually enforce it, it means nothing
Posted on 5/2/13 at 6:14 pm to MoreOrLes
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The poll is being manipulated.
Posted on 5/2/13 at 6:19 pm to Nascar Fan
Smoke and mirrors. If they tell you everybody is doing it, you'll want to also.
Posted on 5/2/13 at 6:23 pm to BFIV
quote:
but a lot of us believed Joshua Chamberlain, too...
Posted on 5/2/13 at 6:39 pm to Nascar Fan
It's probably true. Those of you in the gun nut crowd really aren't a good barometer.
Posted on 5/2/13 at 6:54 pm to Meauxjeaux
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Its a very manipulated poll designed to get that very outcome.
I Posted the actual question in a thread on the political board.
Was this the Quinnipiac poll?
I think it had a very tiny sampling, mostly from left-leaning NE states.
How did they word the question? I think it was very poorly worded.
Posted on 5/2/13 at 7:48 pm to AlxTgr
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Gun nut crowd not a good barometer
ThaNk God you said that.
When you hang around a crowd that all agrees with you,
Sometimes you get to thinking that everyone thinks like you. Not the case.
Jacoby Jones with the dinger!!!
Posted on 5/2/13 at 8:12 pm to AlxTgr
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It's probably true. Those of you in the gun nut crowd really aren't a good barometer.
that's what i'm afraid of. I know a bunch of folks that think this is insane but this BITCH just pisses me off & i want her gone
Posted on 5/2/13 at 8:18 pm to glock22josh
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until you actually enforce it, it means nothing
yup
Posted on 5/2/13 at 9:34 pm to YipSkiddlyDooo
I'm not that surprised. Background check expansion is by far the most widely supported measure that was proposed.
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