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re: After giving Promet[h]eus a shot on cable

Posted on 4/11/13 at 11:44 am to
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 4/11/13 at 11:44 am to
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Please don't take offense to this (and I doubt you will), but you strike me as someone who takes SUCH a critical stance on movies, and who views them with such a critical eye, that it almost seems like it's harder for you to just sit back and enjoy movies as pure entertainment than it is for me. And I know you can "turn off your brain and enjoy things" because we've talked about that before. But I guess maybe you go into a lot more movies than I do with a LOT higher expectations than I do. So while I'm sitting back loving this one and that one, you're uber critical of a lot of them. Just goes to show you how differently people can take in media and entertainment, and why we end up "agreeing to disagree" so often.


None taken. And it just depends, see I feel Scott is ASKING us to ask big questions. To wonder. TO think. Not to sit back and turn our brains off. If Scott heard you say that, he might be a little offended himself, I would think.

You mention that you know I can just sit back and enjoy, so you know I can enjoy the shite out of something like Bad Boys.

But Micheal Bay isn't asking me to question the meaning of life. He's asking me to sit back, listen to Smith and Lawrence banter, enjoy the scenery, including the explosions, and have a good time.

Nothing wrong with that, I'll watch that movie any time it's on.

This goes back to what I said about director's intention. I think that does mean A LOT in film, and if either:

1. The director has no point
2. The director has a point that he misses

Then the film can suffer, but that's the beginning of it. What is the director's intention? I just think Scott's intention in Prometheus was both crowded and missed, and I had no idea what he wanted me to do as a viewer (hence the prequel/separate film comment). He wasn't clear with me.

This post was edited on 4/11/13 at 11:46 am
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 4/11/13 at 11:50 am to
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And it just depends, see I feel Scott is ASKING us to ask big questions. To wonder. TO think. Not to sit back and turn our brains off. If Scott heard you say that, he might be a little offended himself, I would think.

I do agree with this. Scott is asking us to ponder his film. It is not meant to be an empty popcorn film full of cool looking monsters. Which could also be cool.

But I think Scott is trying to engage his audience, and it's only fair that we evaluate the film on those terms. It stands up to more analysis than the Expendables. Though I really liked the Expendables.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 4/11/13 at 11:51 am to
I will say if you thought you were goin to get the answer to the biggest question of all, you shouldn't have seen it in the first place, though the origins of life are shown we're still not given the why, and I think the point is we never will but we won't stop lookin (noomi rapace not going home at the end)

The only mystery I didn't like was the ooz. I just wanted a clear idea of how it functioned but not even what it was.
Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
20777 posts
Posted on 4/11/13 at 1:16 pm to
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None taken. And it just depends, see I feel Scott is ASKING us to ask big questions. To wonder. TO think. Not to sit back and turn our brains off. If Scott heard you say that, he might be a little offended himself, I would think.


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Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
151113 posts
Posted on 4/11/13 at 1:32 pm to
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None taken. And it just depends, see I feel Scott is ASKING us to ask big questions. To wonder. TO think. Not to sit back and turn our brains off. If Scott heard you say that, he might be a little offended himself, I would think.

No...I agree that he's asking us those things. I'm not saying that Prometheus is a "turn your brain off" kind of movie at all. You and I just disagree that Scott "missed the point" or didn't have one at all...I imagine it is those statements that would most offend him.
Posted by alajones
Huntsvegas
Member since Oct 2005
34533 posts
Posted on 4/11/13 at 1:42 pm to
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see I feel Scott is ASKING us to ask big questions. To wonder. TO think. Not to sit back and turn our brains off.
I agree with you on this point. I agree with Baloo that there was a lot of religious subtext in the movie. I feel like it was meant to be that way more than just a good movie.

But I feel like it accomplished an entertaining movie, even though it fell short of intentions. And I agree about a lot of stereotypical characters, but honestly, what movie doesn't have those?

And once you have a couple of problems with a movie, it becomes real easy to pick apart every little detail and say the movie was awful, which it wasn't.

I've only seen it once though in theaters. I also though Avatar had changed the world when I first saw it in 3-D. Not so much on my 42 inch at home.

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