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re: battlestar galactica question.
Posted on 3/29/13 at 3:59 pm to Dr RC
Posted on 3/29/13 at 3:59 pm to Dr RC
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but you vehemently complain about changes to Star Trek and BSG that you claim don't make sense or are not in the spirit of the originals.
Yes, yes I do. I was a fan of the originals and did not like the changes.
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That claim can easily be made about the LOTR movies.
Sure it can, but not by me. I was a fan of the books and I enjoyed the filmed version (Jackson is on my list of trusted filmmakers, partially because of his work on LOTR).
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I find it curious you detest the changing of source material if it was originally a film/yv show but don't care as much if its from a book.
I find it curious that so many people who were fans of Star Trek and the original BSG are rabid fans of Star Trek (2009) and the new BSG. Weird how that works, huh?
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major changes are major changes. It doesnt matter what the original format is.
When going from film to film, the excuses about limitations of the film media kind of evaporate don't they?
This post was edited on 3/29/13 at 4:05 pm
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Posted on 3/29/13 at 4:16 pm to Ace Midnight
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When going from film to film, the excuses about limitations of the film media kind of evaporate don't they?
depends if the changes are simply for running time or not.
the ones that come to mind for me with LOTR most certainly were not b/c of the need to shorten the work.
Posted on 3/29/13 at 4:18 pm to Dr RC
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the ones that come to mind for me with LOTR most certainly were not b/c of the need to shorten the work.
Posted on 3/29/13 at 4:24 pm to Fearthehat0307
No need to shorten LOTR?
The three film scripts were well under 450 pages.
The book is around 1200 pages in paperback.
Yeah, there was no need to shorten the work, cut descriptions, combine characters and events or speed up timelines.
The three film scripts were well under 450 pages.
The book is around 1200 pages in paperback.
Yeah, there was no need to shorten the work, cut descriptions, combine characters and events or speed up timelines.
Posted on 3/29/13 at 4:25 pm to Dr RC
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the ones that come to mind for me with LOTR most certainly were not b/c of the need to shorten the work.
By his own definition, the film adaptation of The Two Towers shite all over the spirit of the book.
Posted on 3/29/13 at 4:27 pm to wadewilson
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By his own definition, the film adaptation of The Two Towers shite all over the spirit of the book.
Don't put words in my mouth. I never said that. Star Trek (2009) $hit all over Star Trek - TOS. From what little I saw, and other things I read, BSG $hit all over the original series.
LOTR was the bomb - I'm on record. This is a rhetorical technique that just won't work with me.
(Oh, and not to be "that guy", but there is no "The Two Towers" book - LOTR is just one book as written - internally divided into "books" that is no more or less valid than saying "Part I", etc.)
This post was edited on 3/29/13 at 4:29 pm
Posted on 3/29/13 at 4:30 pm to Ace Midnight
quote:I agree the new BSG shite all over the original series. the original series can't even compare
BSG $hit all over the original series.
Posted on 3/29/13 at 4:35 pm to Fearthehat0307
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I agree the new BSG shite all over the original series. the original series can't even compare
THAT'S MY POINT. If you didn't care for the original, or just like a more dark, dysfunctional, dystopic vision of the future, the new BSG is probably right up your alley. However, if you're really endeared to the original, all of the changes (virtually everything except the characters' names) might be off-putting - as they were to me.
This post was edited on 3/29/13 at 4:36 pm
Posted on 3/29/13 at 4:38 pm to Ace Midnight
quote:you should be able to appreciate it for what it is. just pretend it's not battlestar galactica it's just some new show with people with similar names. you really are missing out by deciding you were going to hate it going in
THAT'S MY POINT. If you didn't care for the original, or just like a more dark, dysfunctional, dystopic vision of the future, the new BSG is probably right up your alley. However, if you're really endeared to the original, all of the changes (virtually everything except the characters' names) might be off-putting - as they were to me.
Posted on 3/29/13 at 4:52 pm to Fearthehat0307
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you really are missing out by deciding you were going to hate it going in
I didn't do that (and I don't hate it). I heard the hype. I wanted to see what it was all about. I watched some of it.
Meh.
Posted on 3/29/13 at 4:54 pm to Ace Midnight
quote:20 minutes c'mon bro. anyone who gives up on a show after 20 minutes went in with the intent to dislike it.
I didn't do that (and I don't hate it). I heard the hype. I wanted to see what it was all about. I watched some of it.
Meh.
Posted on 3/29/13 at 4:55 pm to Fearthehat0307
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20 minutes c'mon bro. anyone who gives up on a show after 20 minutes went in with the intent to dislike it.
How much do I have to watch to know whether or not I like something? An hour? A season? All of it?
Whatever.
This post was edited on 3/29/13 at 4:56 pm
Posted on 3/29/13 at 4:58 pm to Ace Midnight
What is BSG, 4, 5 seasons? And you decided it was a bad series after 20 minutes of one episode.
WOW
WOW
Posted on 3/29/13 at 5:00 pm to Ace Midnight
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How much do I have to watch to know whether or not I like something? An hour? A season? All of it?
Whatever.
quote:so you were able to see what it was about by watching what would barely pass one commercial break of the first episode. you went in with the preconceived notion that you weren't going to like it. how can one classify and entire show as meh based on 20 minutes? I just don't get it brah
I heard the hype. I wanted to see what it was all about. I watched some of it.
Meh.
This post was edited on 3/29/13 at 5:01 pm
Posted on 3/29/13 at 5:00 pm to wadewilson
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What is BSG, 4, 5 seasons? And you decided it was a bad series after 20 minutes of one episode.
I....never.....f*cking......said.......that. I said I didn't like it. Me. Myself. I. I didn't like it. It's not for me. Enjoy it in good health. I'm not trying to take it from anyone. I didn't try to take it off the air. I don't want them to stop selling it. I'm cool with its existence. I don't....like.....it.
Posted on 3/29/13 at 5:01 pm to Fearthehat0307
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you should be able to appreciate it for what it is. just pretend it's not battlestar galactica it's just some new show with people with similar names. you really are missing out by deciding you were going to hate it going in
not even
all he has to do is repeat the constant theme of "this has all happened before and will all happen again."
Posted on 3/29/13 at 5:01 pm to Ace Midnight
quote:you did say you would have advised someone against it so in a way you are trying to take it away or you would try given the opportunity
I'm not trying to take it from anyone.
Posted on 3/29/13 at 5:02 pm to Dr RC
quote:so say we all
all he has to do is repeat the constant theme of "this has all happened before and will all happen again."
Posted on 3/29/13 at 5:03 pm to Fearthehat0307
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you did say you would have advised someone against it
Who was a "big" fan of the original series, as am I. I think we've proven here that most of the fans of the new series think it's "far" superior the the 70s "schlock" that the original series was. I'm not in that crew and the OP likely isn't either.
ETA: I would, for example, advise anyone who thinks Star Trek 2009 is a "great" reboot - knock yourself out, enjoy the BSG - it is for you. Ditto for people who prefer Dr. Who to Star Trek - TOS, or who really enjoyed the Star Wars prequels (or the "improvements" Lucas made to the original films), or the X-Men movies. The new BSG should be deemed "tailor-made" for people like that.
Not so much people who were "big" fans of the original BSG, of which I count myself.
This post was edited on 3/29/13 at 5:07 pm
Posted on 3/29/13 at 5:05 pm to Ace Midnight
quote:although he may be, he has done nothing to suggest that other than complain about fuel. which doesn't to me necessarily mean he hates it maybe he hates fuel
I'm not in that crew and the OP likely isn't either.
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