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re: battlestar galactica question.

Posted on 3/29/13 at 11:36 am to
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 3/29/13 at 11:36 am to
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But even if you were a fan of the original


I definitely was.

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if you can't see what an absolutely great series the BSG remake was


I didn't drink the Kool-Aid - sue me. I literally couldn't get into it. I couldn't get into Lost, either. That just kills you f*ckers, doesn't it?

I couldn't get into Sons of Anarchy, either, and that's a show I should definitely like. Different strokes, I guess. You guys don't allow for that, apparently, but I'm taking them anyway.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 3/29/13 at 11:38 am to
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so if the new BSG would've been named something different you would've liked it?


Maybe. Who knows? I just didn't like it.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 3/29/13 at 11:38 am to
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carson1934723557239 alter


Definitely not. Carson's dead to me.
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 3/29/13 at 11:41 am to
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You a pretentious jerk bro


Coming from Lacour that's saying something.
Posted by Fearthehat0307
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Posted on 3/29/13 at 11:41 am to
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I didn't drink the Kool-Aid
I never even considered watching bsg until about a year or so ago I think it was freauxzen or lacour or a combination of them recommended it to me. I watched the miniseries and was fricking blown away. I proceeded to watch the entire series in a few weeks. I regret nothing


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I couldn't get into Lost, either
understandable. what kept me going on lost was the desperate need for answers. I never was quite satisfied with it overall though.

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I couldn't get into Sons of Anarchy,
super meh
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 3/29/13 at 11:44 am to
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super meh


My point on SOA is - you would be hard pressed to find a bigger fan of The Shield than me. I definitely should like it, but I don't.

I get the same recommendations from people about the new BSG. It's apparently just not for me. I thought Firefly was the best Sci-Fi series since Star Trek (no bloody TNG, DS9, VOY or ENT).

Posted by Fearthehat0307
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Posted on 3/29/13 at 11:45 am to
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I thought Firefly was the best Sci-Fi series since Star Trek
glad we agree on something. firefly is definitely near the top of the list for me.
Posted by Thracken13
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Posted on 3/29/13 at 11:49 am to
I grew up on the origional, and absolutely loved the remake of BSG. same as the A-team - loved the show, really liked the movie.

Star Trek was the same thing - grew up on the origionals, and watched all other shows over the years and the movies too. absolutely loved what Abrams did with the reboot of the series.

i guess my point is - its entirely possible to enjoy an origional and a remake/re-envisioning/reboot of a series or movie....if you accept both for what they are and were. if you go into a remake expecting it to be the same as the one its based off of - you are setting yourself up fir instant disapointment.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 3/29/13 at 11:49 am to
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glad we agree on something. firefly is definitely near the top of the list for me.


And SHOCKER it was not a remake/reboot/re-imagining of an older product - it was a NEW universe with NEW characters.

[Ace Midnight puts soapbox away for the day.]
Posted by wadewilson
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Posted on 3/29/13 at 11:50 am to
It's a horrible idea to light zombies on fire, says Max Brooks. Says God, as far as you're concerned.
Posted by Fearthehat0307
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Posted on 3/29/13 at 11:50 am to
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And SHOCKER it was not a remake/reboot/re-imagining of an older product - it was a NEW universe with NEW characters.

[Ace Midnight puts soapbox away for the day.]
so basically all remakes are bad
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 3/29/13 at 11:52 am to
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so basically all remakes are bad


The ones that don't make any sense and $hit all over the characters and spirit of what the original was all about are.

Other than those discussed, you have others you think were done well?

(ETA: Basically, I'm saying that I judge a independent product solely on its own merits. On any remake/reboot/re-imagining, if I was a fan of the original, I have to judge it based on its faithfulness to the characters and spirit of the original, otherwise, why am I watching it? Nobody who argues with me on these will concede this is a valid point.)

On the other hand, If I'm not a fan or even familiar with the source material, I judge like a new product, because, how else would I do it. This analysis makes perfect sense to me.
This post was edited on 3/29/13 at 12:02 pm
Posted by wadewilson
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Posted on 3/29/13 at 11:53 am to
I never could get into Lost or Sons of Anarchy either. doesn't mean it's not a good series. How many people give up on The Wire in season 2? Does that mean its not a good show?
Posted by Lacour
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Posted on 3/29/13 at 11:56 am to
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Coming from Lacour that's saying something.


People with different opinions than my own are pretentious.

It's other people's fault. Not mine.

Posted by BloodSweat&Beers
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Posted on 3/29/13 at 12:12 pm to
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Meh... his point is that a today's remake you would have "Han Sally" instead.


Han Sally, Hero of Episode 7-9
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 3/29/13 at 12:14 pm to
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Han Sally, Hero of Episode 7-9


You know those movies are going to suck donkey b*lls - however, they will look good, by comparison, to 1-3. Lucas is a mad genius.
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 3/29/13 at 12:20 pm to
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It's a horrible idea to light zombies on fire, says Max Brooks. Says God, as far as you're concerned.


If they are walking around where they can get to you, yes. If they are contained within a moat it is an entirely different matter. Do you not remember when the zombies were burned in the pit on TWD? Seemed to work pretty well.
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 3/29/13 at 12:22 pm to
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The ones that don't make any sense and $hit all over the characters and spirit of what the original was all about are.


So Scarface(1983), Wizard of Oz(1939), The Fly(1986), and Casino Royale(2006) all suck?
This post was edited on 3/29/13 at 12:27 pm
Posted by BloodSweat&Beers
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Posted on 3/29/13 at 12:24 pm to
Its Angel but in Space...

Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 3/29/13 at 12:29 pm to
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So Scarface(1983) and Wizard of Oz(1939) both suck?


No. However, I might want to point out that I, personally, have never seen the 1932 film Scarface, nor had I seen any of the early Baum films prior to watching Wizard of Oz (1939), as, of course, we all saw as small children.

So, as I indicated before, not being a fan of the earlier works, I judged the "remakes" as independent productions.

Another example (and one which draws not nearly universal agreement, by the way) is King Kong. I have watched and enjoyed 3 different versions of this story, 1933, 1976 and 2005.

(ETA: I'm not a fan of any of the versions of The Fly, and James Bond clearly doesn't count.)
This post was edited on 3/29/13 at 12:31 pm
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