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Posted on 3/11/13 at 8:49 am to The Mick
With the kind of defensive speed thats prevalent on the college level, I just don't see how that's going to work.
But good luck to them.
But good luck to them.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 8:58 am to TXGunslinger10
Didn't people say similar things about Tech when Paul Johnson went there? They have done quite well on offense considering the marginal, at best, talent they get.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 9:06 am to RollTide1987
Posted on 3/11/13 at 9:25 am to RandySavage
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Didn't people say similar things about Tech when Paul Johnson went there? They have done quite well on offense considering the marginal, at best, talent they get.
2 things. First, Paul Johnson had some stud Chain Gailey recruits his first year (Demariyus Thomas, Jonathan Dwyer, Josh Nesbitt, etc). He inherited a perfect scenario to run that offense.
And as for your last sentence, what happened at tech is exactly what's gonna happen at duke. The first year, MAYBE 2, duke will actually have some success due to a)people being totally unfamiliar with scheming against it and only being able to devote 1 week to do so and b)the players they currently have will probably be servicable.
The major problems with duke, just like at tech, are gonna really show through after about 2 years. High school kids don't want to play for an offense like that. No WR is gonna go because they just block all the time, most good QBs won't go because they'll never get to throw, many OL won't go because all they do is run block every down. And most good defenders won't go because they'll just play against that crap all day everyday in practice.
I think it's a neat idea and will probably turn some heads and raise some eyebrows in year 1 and 2. But then they're gonna really be in trouble.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 9:31 am to RollTide1987
I'd rather run a few of those and replace a few I formations, FB dives up the middle on 3rd and 4, and Spencer Ware wildcat plays.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 9:35 am to Hurricane Mike
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I'd rather run a few of those and replace a few I formations, FB dives up the middle on 3rd and 4, and Spencer Ware wildcat plays.
Great point. If you ran one of those maybe 7-10 times I game I think it'd be far more effective than doing it the whole game.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 10:09 am to RollTide1987
I wanted to watch that video, but I heard that song and immediately quit.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 10:10 am to RollTide1987
I remember Boise State running a triple option out of a wing formation before they became good enough to line up on offense in a pro set. I think Oregon ran a lot of triple option out of the wing about ten years ago too.
I'd say the problem will be recruits, but it's not like Duke was getting great recruits anyway.
I'd say the problem will be recruits, but it's not like Duke was getting great recruits anyway.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 10:32 am to RollTide1987
That first video was hard to watch. Wow.
In reference to the players not wanting to go to Duke. Top recruits never want to go there now anyway. With this system they could potentially get a stud athlete to run QB like a Russell.Shepard type guy. And you don't have to have huge OL with this system, there will be plenty of guys to choose from.
In reference to the players not wanting to go to Duke. Top recruits never want to go there now anyway. With this system they could potentially get a stud athlete to run QB like a Russell.Shepard type guy. And you don't have to have huge OL with this system, there will be plenty of guys to choose from.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 11:09 am to RollTide1987
I guess it allows them to diversify themselves in recruiting. Duke isn't exactly in play for top end talent on a yearly basis. By going after specific types of players to fill needs in this offense, it may be a positive.
Now, as far as translation to wins on the field.. that's a different story.
Now, as far as translation to wins on the field.. that's a different story.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 11:47 am to brewhan davey
Coach Weiner just got a chubbie.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 11:53 am to KosmoCramer
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With this system they could potentially get a stud athlete to run QB like a Russell.Shepard type guy.
No major athlete is gonna play in an offense like that at Duke. Tech is far more of a "football school" than duke, and the QB talent PJ has recruited there is extremely average. You aren't gonna get a stud QB to come to a school and throw the ball 50 times in a season.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 11:54 am to brewhan davey
Yeah...Cutcliffe has apparently been planning to switch to this offense since he got there and has been quietly recruiting players to fit into this offense. That offense could consistently work in a conference like the ACC. It's Duke. They're happy with 6 wins. An offense like this, if run right, would give that to them consistently.
I just know this particular offense is freaking old. Alabama ran it when Wallace Wade was here winning Rose Bowls in the 20s.
I just know this particular offense is freaking old. Alabama ran it when Wallace Wade was here winning Rose Bowls in the 20s.
This post was edited on 3/11/13 at 11:55 am
Posted on 3/11/13 at 11:56 am to RollTide1987
I think it is a response to pro-style players leaving the program this year. They dont have the personel to compete like they did this past year. Should be interdasting to see how it works out. Its not like the ACC has overpowering defenses anyway.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 11:57 am to Suntiger
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I remember Boise State running a triple option out of a wing formation before they became good enough to line up on offense in a pro set.
As a 1AA team? Boise State has been a "pro set" team since at least Houston Nutt. You are probable thinking of another team
This post was edited on 3/11/13 at 11:58 am
Posted on 3/11/13 at 11:57 am to RollTide1987
For teams that can't bring in talent this is a great choice. I wouldn't be surprised to see more teams revert back to option type offenses. Defesnses never get to see them anymore with all the spread offenses.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 12:07 pm to Topwater Trout
But I thought Ole Miss should have never fired Cutcliffe..what were we thinking!
Posted on 3/11/13 at 12:15 pm to WmWallace
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But I thought Ole Miss should have never fired Cutcliffe..what were we thinking!
They shouldn't have, he was one of the best things to happen to that program.
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