This has to be the worst thread this month. James would be an all star in the jordan era. We'd be talking about him and Jordan as the best two players. Something like Brady and manning.

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Posted by DownSouthCrawfish

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Posted on 2/28/13 at 10:18 am to TJGator1215

My God I thought we would never talk about this hot topic.

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Posted by theunknownknight

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Posted on 2/28/13 at 10:18 am to shel311

A quick SEVENTY-FIVE from the last 3 seasons alone. Sorry, didnt have room for Marv Albert and Spike Lee, maybe on another T-shirt

Kobe Bryant
Lebron James
Kevin Durant
Chris Bosh
Dwayne Wade
Chris Paul
Carmelo Anthony
Pau Gasol
Steve Nash
Amare Stoudemire
Dirk Nowitzki
Tim Duncan
Tony Parker
Deron Williams
Carlos Boozer
Brando Roy
Dwight Howard
Vince Carter
Paul Pierce
Kevin Garnett
Rajon Rondo
Ron Artest
Ray Allen
Raymond Felton
Ty Lawson
Tyreke Evans
Shaq Oneal
Manu Ginobli
Chauncy Billups
Russell Westbrook
Jason Kidd
Gerald Wallace
Derrick Rose
Allen Iverson
Devin Harris
Danny Granger
Joe Johnson
Tracy McGrady
Monta Ellis
Ben Gordon
Brandon Jennings
Rudy Gay
Kevin Martin
Kyrie Irving
Josh Smith
OJ Mayo
David Lee
Al Horford
Zach Randolf
Shawn Marion
David West
Rasheed Wallace
Marc Gasol
LaMarcus Aldridge
Yao Ming
Marcus Camby
Lamar Odom
Andrew Bynum
James Harden
Ryan Anderson
Anthony Davis
Stephen Curry
DeMar DeRozan
Serge Ibaka
Omer Asik
Brook Lopez
Kemba Walker
Damian Lillard
Andre Drummond
Alexey Shved
John Wall
Bradley Beal (14 ppg in 30 min/game rookie)
Ricky Rubio
Kenneth Faried
MarShon Brooks

Please list the top 75 from say 92-95

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Posted by jturn17

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Posted on 2/28/13 at 10:26 am to SlowFlowPro

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it's glorifying the past. it happens in all walks of life. the thread about wilt calling out the 80s for not playing defense like they did in his day was awesome in this regard

it's like people who think the present is more dangerous/violent than when they grew up...and they grew up in teh 80s/90s (which was the most violent period in american history not during a war)

Completely agree.

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Posted by tiger in the gump

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Posted on 2/28/13 at 10:36 am to CajunFootball

Yeah not only every other sport, but any industry has increased in sophistication and competition in 20 years, but we are suppose to believe the NBA hasn't. Disregard players today are not only more athletic, but have way more opportunities to develop their game as opposed to 20 years ago. Today's technology allows us to really scrutinize players games more, as opposed to the 80/90s where such avenues were severely limited. Takes a lot more skill to play defense today, than back when you could simply apply more physical contact when you're getting outclassed. imagine Bron being able to just use his physical attributes with brute force back in the day. Elbow by Bron, yeah good luck with that.

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Posted by Fat Bastard

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Posted on 2/28/13 at 10:57 am to Mo Jeaux

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RA'd to name this board the "LJ vs. MJ" board.

It's really gotten old. I'm headed over to the soccer board for some entertainment.

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Posted by rondo

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Posted on 2/28/13 at 11:27 am to Fat Bastard

Who the frick is Brandon Beal?

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Posted by lance814

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Posted on 2/28/13 at 12:10 pm to rondo

Lebron is in a class of his own athletically in 2013. Can you imagine someone being this athletic 20 years prior? He would dominate the NBA in Jordan's era, just like prime Jordan would in today's game IMO. Fact is, Players are much more athletic and defenses are much more sophisticated now than 20 years prior. This fascination y'all have with the "good ole days" is absurd.

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Posted by FightinTigersDammit

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Posted on 2/28/13 at 12:22 pm to lance814

The league was incredibly physical back in the day. Guys would get knocked on their arse for driving the lane, as a warning not to do it again, and the hand-checking rules allowed guys like Jerry Sloan to basicly mug people on the court.

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Posted by lance814

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Posted on 2/28/13 at 12:31 pm to FightinTigersDammit

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The league was incredibly physical back in the day. Guys would get knocked on their arse for driving the lane, as a warning not to do it again, and the hand-checking rules allowed guys like Jerry Sloan to basicly mug people on the court.

And the players adjusted to that style of play just like they do in today's game, but to say someone wouldn't make it earlier years because they are soft is wrong. They would adjust their game accordingly.

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Posted by shel311

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Posted on 2/28/13 at 12:43 pm to FightinTigersDammit

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The league was incredibly physical back in the day. Guys would get knocked on their arse for driving the lane, as a warning not to do it again, and the hand-checking rules allowed guys like Jerry Sloan to basicly mug people on the court.

This is true, but it also didn't make defenses better back then.

Here's another thing I don't understand, if I had to pick one single player who would best be able to adapt to hard fouls while driving the lane, Lebron would be the no brainer answer.

Then you have ask yourself, ok, how would those great defensive players from the 80s play good defense nowadays since they couldn't be so physical and couldn't handcheck? Same thing.

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Posted by RonBurgundy

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Posted on 2/28/13 at 5:49 pm to theunknownknight

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If I list all the greats to play over the last 15 years and compare it to Jordan's list

1) a lot of those crossover
2) your definition of great has yet to be defined or agreed upon.

ETA: these players in bold are certainly questionably "great" players

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Kobe Bryant Lebron James Kevin Durant Chris Bosh Dwayne Wade Chris Paul Carmelo Anthony Pau Gasol Steve Nash Amare Stoudemire Dirk Nowitzki Tim Duncan Tony Parker Deron Williams Carlos Boozer Brando Roy Dwight Howard Vince Carter Paul Pierce Kevin Garnett Rajon Rondo Ron Artest Ray Allen Raymond Felton Ty Lawson Tyreke Evans Shaq Oneal Manu Ginobli Chauncy Billups Russell Westbrook Jason Kidd Gerald Wallace Derrick Rose Allen Iverson Devin Harris Danny Granger Joe Johnson Tracy McGrady Monta Ellis Ben Gordon Brandon Jennings Rudy Gay Kevin Martin Kyrie Irving Josh Smith OJ Mayo David Lee Al Horford Zach Randolf Shawn Marion David West Rasheed Wallace Marc Gasol LaMarcus Aldridge Yao Ming Marcus Camby Lamar Odom Andrew Bynum James Harden Ryan Anderson Anthony Davis Stephen Curry DeMar DeRozan Serge Ibaka Omer Asik Brook Lopez Kemba Walker Damian Lillard Andre Drummond Alexey Shved John Wall Bradley Beal (14 ppg in 30 min/game rookie) Ricky Rubio Kenneth Faried MarShon Brooks