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re: How good is Inglorious Basterds?
Posted on 2/26/13 at 10:43 pm to Zed
Posted on 2/26/13 at 10:43 pm to Zed
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. Pitt was terrible, and Fassbender's character annoyed the shite out of me.
Disagree there.
Pitt was solid. Although I must admit it seemed like he was playing in a different movie than everyone else until the very end
But that was probably what QT intended...Having the American soldiers represent War films of the 40s-60s.
Fassbender was tremendous imo. He makes that Tavern scene complete. Probably a top 5 scene in QT movie history.
However, the greatness of that scene is why I think Django Unchained is better. Django Unchained's "Dinner table scene" wasnt as good as IB's....but it was of greater importance. It directly involved central characters to the plot....which ultimately led to "Handshake Scene' which kicks the movie into high gear. I cared more about what was going to happen to Waltz, Foxx, Washington....then Fassbender, Stiglitz....only because..
QT didnt feature their characters enough in the movie. IB needed more Basterds in it imo. More Basterds and it probably is my favorite QT of all time.
This post was edited on 2/26/13 at 10:47 pm
Posted on 2/26/13 at 10:47 pm to tigerbru17
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How good is Inglorious Basterds?
It's okay. If you like Tarantino, it's enjoyable. I thought it was pretty average, pretty boring in many parts, and often felt disjointed. But Christoph Waltz is wonderful.
Full disclosure, though, the only Tarantino flick I like is Pulp Fiction. I've seen Reservoir Dogs, Kill Bill 1 and 2, Inglorious Basterds, as well as Pulp Fiction. The first four I thought were mediocre at best. Particularly upon second watch.
Posted on 2/26/13 at 10:48 pm to Carson123987
quote:He really was atrocious, and I like Pitt. Very good in 12 Monkeys and Fight Club. He was hilarious in Burn After Reading.
what did you expect
quote:His British gentleman act was awful to me. I'm not sure if it was his acting or the character.
come on!! he was the shite
The scenes with Schultz and Laurent were great.
Posted on 2/26/13 at 10:52 pm to Rittdog
quote:I really didn't like how he played the character.
Fassbender was tremendous imo.
The dialogue was great as usual but Pitt especially didn't get it done for me. The casting for Django was exceptional, and I wouldn't replace anyone except maybe Kerry Washington.
Posted on 2/26/13 at 10:59 pm to tigerbru17
Tarantino, so overrated.
Posted on 2/26/13 at 11:20 pm to Zed
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The casting for Django was exceptional, and I wouldn't replace anyone except maybe Kerry Washington.
Any ideas on who you would replace her with?
I thought she did very well with such a small role. Really had to express a lot of emotion without much dialogue.
Posted on 2/27/13 at 12:04 am to Carson123987
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Inglorious Basterds is a far more interesting, smart, and uncompromising movie than the ones that inspired it. Go watch The Dirty Dozen or Where Eagles Dare or Kelly's Heroes or The Great Escape or They Were Expendable and you'll find movies that don't even struggle to rise to the level of meta-commentary on either film as a medium or war or violence; despite comic flourishes, they are earnest and plodding and utterly cliched in their war-is-hell-ain't-it perspective. Even as loopy and uneven a comedy as Kelly's Heroes expects to be taken seriously despite its threadbare messaging and utterly conventional morality. As does Speilberg's Saving Private Ryan, the ending of which is so maudlin and contemptible—Matt Damon's title character demands his family and the audience certify that he'd led a good life—as to erase the power of the film's recreation of the Normandy invasion. Indeed, one of the best ways to view Inglorious Basterds is as a sort of answer movie to the gauzy "Greatest Generation" nostalgia that ultimately undermines Saving Private Ryan.
Now this guy really loves IB.
Posted on 2/27/13 at 12:09 am to Rittdog
Some more good stuff if you're a fan of QT..
quote:
Tarantino's movies typically pull double duty like the best art always does. Which is to say, they're both interesting in and of themselves while adding on a level of meta-commentary and criticism about how the best art operates. They thus incorporate a faithful evocation of an original while allowing—or forcing—the viewer to think about the generic conventions and cliches we use to convey supposedly unique moments of meaning. Call it the Madame Bovary effect, for Flaubert's masterpiece is ultimately a novel about the effects of novels on people. Or maybe call it The Colbert Report Perplex. Especially at the show's launch, Stephen Colbert's blowhard character was such a perfect distillation of the energy and dynamism and self-importance of Bill O'Reilly that you didn't need to watch The O'Reilly Factor anymore. You could get everything that was truly engaging about O'Reilly—and a comic critique of it—simply by watching Colbert (and note that Colbert pulled this off in large part because his character regularly reduced liberal guests to incoherence by challenging them on their beliefs). Tarantino does something similar in movies such as Django Unchained: He channels past movies but makes something that incorporates their essence while easily surpassing them (if you don't believe that, check out the movie that inspired Tarantino).
Posted on 2/27/13 at 12:10 am to tigerbru17
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Inglorious Basterds
Wayyy overrated, but I'm not a Tarantino fan. It really depends on your movie taste.
Posted on 2/27/13 at 12:13 am to Rittdog
quote:I can't think of anyone really.
Any ideas on who you would replace her with?
Posted on 2/27/13 at 5:15 am to Rittdog
I rented it and really enjoyed it. Really good movie that I look forward to seeing again. I think the overall story of Django is better, but that's just me. The reason a give the edge to Django is not only the story, but the setting for me was a plus. I have always been more of a civil war guy than a wwII guy. Now my father, he is a big wwII guy so he loves IB. Like I said I really enjoyed this movie and my ranking may change with more views, as I have scene Django twice already.
Posted on 2/27/13 at 5:52 am to John McClane
Love IB.
I havent seen Django yet but want to.
I will say, I'm a Tarrantino fan, but I did not care for Kill Bill either.
I havent seen Django yet but want to.
I will say, I'm a Tarrantino fan, but I did not care for Kill Bill either.
Posted on 2/27/13 at 6:45 am to tigerbru17
My favorite tarantino movie.
Posted on 2/27/13 at 7:47 am to tigerbru17
Haven't seen Django yet, but IB was very good I thought. In my opinion, the opening scene is the best part of that entire movie. Very well done.
Some of you seemed lukewarm to Kill Bill. I thought Kill Bill Volume 1 was awesome. The length was just right too.
However, I have to be in the right mood to watch a Quentin Taratino movie. They tend to be very long movies, and it can get tiring to watch after awhile. Just my opinion. That's why I've never really watched Pulp Fiction or IB more than a couple times.
Some of you seemed lukewarm to Kill Bill. I thought Kill Bill Volume 1 was awesome. The length was just right too.
However, I have to be in the right mood to watch a Quentin Taratino movie. They tend to be very long movies, and it can get tiring to watch after awhile. Just my opinion. That's why I've never really watched Pulp Fiction or IB more than a couple times.
Posted on 2/27/13 at 7:54 am to GetCocky11
Word is Django Unchained could have been 2 movies.
They cut out about 1hr and 20 mins of the story to make it a 2hr 45 minute movie.
So it could have been a couple 2 hr movies of Django..
And the timing would have been "just right" for everybody. Which is why it would lessen some of the people's problems with the movie (movie length)
Too bad. You should check it out...but yea....it could have been an awesome 2 parter..
They cut out about 1hr and 20 mins of the story to make it a 2hr 45 minute movie.
So it could have been a couple 2 hr movies of Django..
And the timing would have been "just right" for everybody. Which is why it would lessen some of the people's problems with the movie (movie length)
Too bad. You should check it out...but yea....it could have been an awesome 2 parter..
Posted on 2/27/13 at 7:59 am to Rittdog
quote:
Word is Django Unchained could have been 2 movies.
They cut out about 1hr and 20 mins of the story to make it a 2hr 45 minute movie.
So it could have been a couple 2 hr movies of Django..
And the timing would have been "just right" for everybody. Which is why it would lessen some of the people's problems with the movie (movie length)
Too bad. You should check it out...but yea....it could have been an awesome 2 parter..
Which is why I think Kill Bill works. They cut it up into two movies. Sure Volume 2 slightly underwhelmed in the eyes of some I think, but the overall idea worked as a two movie thing.
I will absolutely see Django though. QT is a great filmmaker.
This post was edited on 2/27/13 at 8:01 am
Posted on 2/27/13 at 8:11 am to tigerbru17
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I saw the Kill Bills and really did not like Tarentino after that. It just wasn't my thing.
I never wanted to see the KB movies really, because that kind of movie wasn't my thing either. But I found that if you go into them expecting a giant, over-the-top homage to old school martial arts films (which I never watched, but can recognize most of the aspects of), the KB movies are much better.
As for how good IB is...it's really good. The dialogue and tension-builds that QT does so well are prevalent throughout the movie. There are some annoying things about it, but all in all, IB is great.
Posted on 2/27/13 at 8:24 am to tigerbru17
IB is fantastic. It's worth watching for Waltz and the Hugo Stiglitz scene alone.
Posted on 2/27/13 at 8:29 am to tigerbru17
I never understood the love for IB.
I guess I'm going to have to rent it again to see what I missed the first time around.
I guess I'm going to have to rent it again to see what I missed the first time around.
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