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Watching Roots and its making me sick
Posted on 2/16/13 at 3:57 pm
Posted on 2/16/13 at 3:57 pm
to think that really happend.
Posted on 2/16/13 at 4:04 pm to snow517
I hear ya. But its not exactly a new revalation.
To be honest, a whole lot of stuff that's occurred all throughout human history is pretty harrowing.
To be honest, a whole lot of stuff that's occurred all throughout human history is pretty harrowing.
Posted on 2/16/13 at 4:05 pm to snow517
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Posted on 2/16/13 at 4:11 pm to snow517
I wish there had never been any slavery in America
Posted on 2/16/13 at 4:20 pm to snow517
It was probably way worse to be honest with you. Horrible.
Posted on 2/16/13 at 4:30 pm to lsuwontonwrap
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It was probably way worse to be honest with you. Horrible.
I recently read about John Crenshaw and his slave house in Illinois (that's right, Illinois)
Posted on 2/16/13 at 4:42 pm to lsuwontonwrap
quote:You think?
It was probably way worse to be honest with you. Horrible.
Posted on 2/16/13 at 4:48 pm to snow517
Watch Django Unchained.
But yea that series was tough to watch.
But yea that series was tough to watch.
Posted on 2/16/13 at 4:59 pm to Kafka
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I wish there had never been any slavery in America
But then the SEC wouldn't dominate College Football...
Posted on 2/16/13 at 5:05 pm to Tiger1242
well you just can't argue that
Posted on 2/16/13 at 5:08 pm to Kafka
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I wish there had never been any slavery in America
Then Civil War buffs like me wouldn't have a hobby. Well...World War II still exists.
Posted on 2/16/13 at 5:17 pm to snow517
It didn't happen.
Unfortunately, the general public is largely unaware of how Haley's monumental family autobiography, stretching back to 18th-century Africa, has been discredited.
Indeed, a 1997 BBC documentary expose of Haley's work has been banned by U.S. television networks - especially PBS, which would normally welcome such a program.
Coincidentally, the "Roots" anniversary comes amid the growing scandal over disclosures of historian Stephen Ambrose's multiple incidents of plagiarism. Because as Haley himself was forced to acknowledge, a large section of his book -
including the plot, main character and scores of whole passages - was
lifted from "The African," a 1967 novel by white author Hal Courlander.
But plagiarism is the least of the problems in "Roots." And they would likely have remained largely unknown, had journalist Philip Nobile not undertaken a remarkable study of Haley's private papers shortly before they were auctioned off.
The result was featured in a devastating 1993 cover piece in the Village Voice. It confirmed - from Haley's own notes - earlier claims that the alleged history of the book was a near-total invention.
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Unfortunately, the general public is largely unaware of how Haley's monumental family autobiography, stretching back to 18th-century Africa, has been discredited.
Indeed, a 1997 BBC documentary expose of Haley's work has been banned by U.S. television networks - especially PBS, which would normally welcome such a program.
Coincidentally, the "Roots" anniversary comes amid the growing scandal over disclosures of historian Stephen Ambrose's multiple incidents of plagiarism. Because as Haley himself was forced to acknowledge, a large section of his book -
including the plot, main character and scores of whole passages - was
lifted from "The African," a 1967 novel by white author Hal Courlander.
But plagiarism is the least of the problems in "Roots." And they would likely have remained largely unknown, had journalist Philip Nobile not undertaken a remarkable study of Haley's private papers shortly before they were auctioned off.
The result was featured in a devastating 1993 cover piece in the Village Voice. It confirmed - from Haley's own notes - earlier claims that the alleged history of the book was a near-total invention.
LINK
Posted on 2/16/13 at 5:20 pm to R2Z2
The massive book "Roots" by Haley won a Pulitzer Prize for its account of several generations of an African-American family living in America, a family which Haley said was his own. The writer said he did years of research into his ancestors before writing the book, but doubt has been cast by historians onto the research and whether the man Haley claimed was his ancestor, Kunta Kinte, actually existed. In 1978, after the book was turned into a legendary miniseries, Haley was sued by author Harold Courlander, who said that passages of "Roots" were taken from his novel "The African." Haley said he did not plagiarize but admitted that some sections of "Roots" seemed to have originally appeared in "The African." "Alex Haley ... regrets that various materials from The African by Harold Courlander found their way into his book Roots," said a statement by the author.
LINK
LINK
Posted on 2/16/13 at 5:22 pm to R2Z2
In the early 1980s, when Alex Haley, the author of "Roots," was speaking at Lincoln Center, investigative reporter Philip Nobile asked him a straightforward question. Since he had paid Harold Courlander $650,000 in a plagiarism suit, why shouldn't Haley be considered a criminal instead of a hero? Haley had no answer. Well, what would you expect from someone who had pulled off one of the biggest con jobs in U.S. literary history? Yet the "Roots" hoax has sustained itself. Every PBS station in America refused to show the 1997 BBC documentary inspired by Nobile's reporting on the book.
Since "Roots" has brought millions of black tourist dollars to Gambia, one Gambian said to me, "Yes, it is a lie but it is a good lie."
LINK
Since "Roots" has brought millions of black tourist dollars to Gambia, one Gambian said to me, "Yes, it is a lie but it is a good lie."
LINK
Posted on 2/16/13 at 5:36 pm to Rittdog
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Watch Django Unchained.
Yeah, and then watch Inglorious Basterds so you can see what really happened in WWII.
Posted on 2/16/13 at 5:47 pm to Kafka
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I wish there had never been any slavery in America
sorta still is, we just call it corrections.
Posted on 2/16/13 at 6:04 pm to snow517
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to think that really happend.
well you can rest assured because it didn't. Fiction is fiction.
Posted on 2/16/13 at 6:47 pm to CtotheVrzrbck
I'm talking about slavery in general, not the movie.
Posted on 2/16/13 at 6:54 pm to snow517
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making me sick
I know. To think Mr. Brady was that way once...
Posted on 2/16/13 at 7:14 pm to Alahunter
What's your name boy? Say it!
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