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Was Spags being fired completely based on the worst defense in history...
Posted on 1/25/13 at 6:24 am
Posted on 1/25/13 at 6:24 am
or was it based more on the fact that Payton just wants to switch to a 3-4 defense?
Did he sit back this year and realize the 3-4 scheme is just more successful and may be better suited for our personnel? So he pulled the plug while he knew he could?
I'm all about the 3-4 defense back in the Dome!
Did he sit back this year and realize the 3-4 scheme is just more successful and may be better suited for our personnel? So he pulled the plug while he knew he could?
I'm all about the 3-4 defense back in the Dome!
This post was edited on 1/25/13 at 6:35 am
Posted on 1/25/13 at 6:32 am to Mouth
If the D had played well this year, we probably wouldn't be switching to a 3-4. So, I guess it had more to do with Spags and the D's performance this past season.
Posted on 1/25/13 at 6:35 am to Mouth
I honestly think CSP is cleaning house.
He's probably furious after what he saw during the year.
He's probably furious after what he saw during the year.
Posted on 1/25/13 at 6:36 am to Mouth
Probably equal parts worst defense, and they all hated him, players and coaches.
Posted on 1/25/13 at 6:44 am to Mouth
If we take SP's words on their face, then he fired Spags more for a change in philosophy than for performance.
But SP could just be being diplomatic.
But SP could just be being diplomatic.
Posted on 1/25/13 at 6:48 am to Mouth
7000 yards, bro. Over 7000 yards. I'm sure it had a lot to do with it.
Posted on 1/25/13 at 7:09 am to Mouth
Combination of a bad defense and seeing our def personel closer to a 3-4 with drafting for a 3-4 also easier. Add the trouble the Saints and CSP have had vs the 3-4.The worst def in history gives you the biggest opening to switch you could ever have.
One nice bonus is that our enemies atl TB and carolina have not seen this def from the Saints in a long time.
One nice bonus is that our enemies atl TB and carolina have not seen this def from the Saints in a long time.
Posted on 1/25/13 at 7:34 am to Mouth
Pretty sure Spags would still be here if the defense was average last year. Instead, the defense was beyond terrible and CSP is kicking arse and taking names in the offseason.
Posted on 1/25/13 at 7:34 am to Mouth
I think Payton probably did a ton of research and watched a ton of film. Unless Spags completely set the world on fire this year, Payton was gonna go a different direction.
Posted on 1/25/13 at 7:53 am to Mouth
Payton had a year to focus solely on the overall direction of his team and didnt like what he saw on the defensive side IMO. In the past being so consumed with offensive gameplan, he was very hands off on defense which is a major reason for his suspension. That won't happen from now on.
Posted on 1/25/13 at 8:10 am to Mouth
To the OP, yes.
Having Spags on the sideline the year after he was a HC, and our HC wasn't there to oversee his first-year's defense play-calling decisions, have a huge part in CSP's move to change DC leader. An ex-HC without a HC run amok.
Having Spags on the sideline the year after he was a HC, and our HC wasn't there to oversee his first-year's defense play-calling decisions, have a huge part in CSP's move to change DC leader. An ex-HC without a HC run amok.
Posted on 1/25/13 at 8:11 am to Mouth
I've been thinking about this a lot. Of course last years performance had something to do with the decision, but there had to be some friction between Spags and others on the staff.
The switch to the 3-4 will help this offense get over the issues they've had against the 3-4. That, imo, is what is really standing in the way between us and another Championship. Of course the defense has to be play better, but we had to be able to run and not be a turnover machine against the 3-4.
The switch to the 3-4 will help this offense get over the issues they've had against the 3-4. That, imo, is what is really standing in the way between us and another Championship. Of course the defense has to be play better, but we had to be able to run and not be a turnover machine against the 3-4.
Posted on 1/25/13 at 8:12 am to Mouth
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Was Spags being fired completely based on the worst defense in history...
Yes....Dude, that defense was fricking abysmal.
Posted on 1/25/13 at 8:14 am to Mouth
Payton was contemplating the switch for a while now. Spags defense helped make the decision a reality. I'm happy because this may be the huge push this team needs to get past years of mediocrity on the defensive side of the ball. This decision right here may be the culmination of future championships under this regime. Payton just made a huge move to get this team back where we all know it should be. On top.
Posted on 1/25/13 at 8:18 am to Mouth
I think the switch to the 3-4 was inevitable. This is a copy cat, cyclical league. Something's only a fad in the NFL until it sticks, and the shift to the 3-4 appears to be in full swing.
Posted on 1/25/13 at 8:18 am to Mouth
No one is arguing that the defense was anything short of an embarassment bcs they were for the most part of the year. The stats prove that.
However, SP is a classy guy and always has been. Switching to a 3-4 I think is the main reason that Spags is gone, however, it serves a dual purpose of also letting Spags go in a classy manor.
However, SP is a classy guy and always has been. Switching to a 3-4 I think is the main reason that Spags is gone, however, it serves a dual purpose of also letting Spags go in a classy manor.
Posted on 1/26/13 at 12:40 pm to Mouth
absolutely both
Posted on 1/27/13 at 8:23 am to Mouth
When I wrote a few months ago that Spags had to go, I got jumped on like a kid with a pair of Lebron shoes. Payton saw what everyone else saw: A defense that didn't improve from start to finish. A defense that looked confused in executing basic skills. A defense that looked as unprepared as a crackhead taking a mensa test; these are the reasons the man got his walking papers.
Saints fans need to be thankful that Payton had the gonads to step in and put the dog to sleep in quick fashion.
Saints fans need to be thankful that Payton had the gonads to step in and put the dog to sleep in quick fashion.
Posted on 1/27/13 at 8:32 am to Mouth
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Did he sit back this year and realize the 3-4 scheme is just more successful and may be better suited for our personnel? So he pulled the plug while he knew he could?
This IMO. I think he was sitting around and the wheels were spinning, and this was just the first opportunity he could
Posted on 1/27/13 at 8:15 pm to Mouth
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or was it based more on the fact that Payton just wants to switch to a 3-4 defense?
Did he sit back this year and realize the 3-4 scheme is just more successful and may be better suited for our personnel? So he pulled the plug while he knew he could?
I'm all about the 3-4 defense back in the Dome!
I'd put it this way. In Payton's opinion, this was about the easiest time he would ever get to make a decision like this. There were VERY few things keeping him from making the move...including Spagnuolo. It wasn't a hard decision.
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