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re: Players come to LSU to go to the NFL

Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:09 am to
Posted by Choupique19
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Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:09 am to
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What do those guys (as it relates specfically to our players leaving this year) have to gain by staying? Ware? nothing. Ford? nothing
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I don't know, what do these guys have to gain by staying: Aaron Murray, AJ McCarron, Tahj Boyd?


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Yeah b/c we're loaded with NFL-ready offensive players all over the field


The sarcasm in this posts is inferring that we had no talent on offense, so I'm guessing that all of these stud early-entries played on the defensive side. Therefore, we surely had the top rated defense in the country, right?

Total defense: 8th
Scoring defense: 12th

Yet we have more underclassmen leaving than any team in the history of the NFL draft.



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You are an idiot.

Go check how many players Bama had leave last year that were not seniors. Try educating yourself before you come on here just spewing bullshiteee.


Alabama after winning 2 out of 3 national titles in 2012: 2 early entries, both first round picks (some debate here, I had 4, Crimsonsaint had 2 - regardless, it was not 10)

Alabama in 2011: 3 early entries, all first round picks

After winning 3 out of 4 national titles in 2013: 3 at the most


What do these guys have left to play for at Alabama? Don't they realize that they could be making money in the NFL next year?

This post was edited on 1/10/13 at 10:12 am
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:09 am to
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2. Dre Kirkpatrick & Trent Richardson.


Might want to go check your facts there buddy boy.
Posted by TriumphTiger
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Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:15 am to
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:23 am to
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Aaron Murray, AJ McCarron, Tahj Boyd?


Alot. QBs who come back have a ton to gain. They could all play themselves into a top half 1st round pick.
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:24 am to
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I don't know, what do these guys have to gain by staying: Aaron Murray, AJ McCarron, Tahj Boyd?


Not sure if serious? They have a hell of a lot to gain since Boyd would probably be about the 10 rated QB and McCarron probably wouldn't be too far in front of him.

Murray could probably go, but again, he will be a first rounder next year. He would not this year.
Posted by Choupique19
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Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:26 am to
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Alot. QBs who come back have a ton to gain. They could all play themselves into a top half 1st round pick.


You don't think Aaron Murray and Tahj Boyd were going to be top 15 picks?

You're making a case for these guys to improve their draft status into the top 15 overall picks, yet LSU has guys declaring early who are going to be 3rd, 4th, and very late round picks.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
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Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:27 am to
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What do these guys have left to play for at Alabama?


The Alabama obsession is even taking over fans I thought used to be good posters.

It's starting to get really awful on here.
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:27 am to
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You don't think Aaron Murray and Tahj Boyd were going to be top 15 picks?




Dude there is no way in hell Boyd would have been a top 15 pick. He would have been about the 8-10 rated QB in this class.

Murray would not have been a top 15 pick either. No way in hell.
Posted by Ford Frenzy
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Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:29 am to
Having this many "NFL ready" underclassmen, yet only being able to muster a Peach Bowl loss is a problem somewhere, either our program has issues or the guys aren't NFL ready
Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:31 am to
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Might want to go check your facts there buddy boy.


If you want to count 4th year junior Dont'a Hightower then go for it. He was on campus for four years buddy boy.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41312 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:32 am to
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If you want to count 4th year junior Dont'a Hightower then go for it. He was on campus for four years buddy boy.


Most of our guys leaving have been on campus 4 years also. Not seeing your point.
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:33 am to
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You don't think Aaron Murray and Tahj Boyd were going to be top 15 picks?


Not a chance. If, and thats a big if, a QB is taken in the top 15 it will be Geno Smith. And that doesnt depend on who else is there.
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:38 am to
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If you want to count 4th year junior Dont'a Hightower then go for it. He was on campus for four years buddy boy.


Correct it is called a redshirt junior.

Kind of like Mingo, Minter, Montgomery, Faulk, Logan, and Ford all were. Every one of them redshirted and was on campus for 4 years. So when we talk about players leaving early should we just not count them since they were really on campus for 4 years or would you rather keep having a double standard to make LSU's situation sound worse than it is?
Posted by LSUsCRYSTALball
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:45 am to
Exactly
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:50 am to
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The Alabama obsession is even taking over fans I thought used to be good posters.


It's not just an Alabama obsession. It's a Florida obsession, a Clemson obsession. Those are teams that beat us this year.

It's a Texas A&M obsession, it's a South Carolina obsession, it's a Georgia obsession. Those are all teams that finished ranked ahead of us this year.
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:51 am to
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It's a Texas A&M obsession, it's a South Carolina obsession Those are teams that we actually beat on the frickin field this year.
Posted by mule74
Watersound Beach
Member since Nov 2004
11327 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:53 am to
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I don't know, what do these guys have to gain by staying: Aaron Murray, AJ McCarron, Tahj Boyd?



Aaron Murray - He really wants to win a national title. That's important to some people.

AJ McCarron - He will not have a long NFL career. His future is autograph sessions around the state and free drinks at the Red Elephant Club. Winning a third national title as a starter secures that future.

Tahj Boyd -

ETA: How many players do you think go in first round. Are you aware that there are only 32 NFL teams? So you are saying Tahj Boyd, Aaron Murray and four kids from Bama would have all gone in first had they come out???
This post was edited on 1/10/13 at 10:58 am
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:59 am to
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It's a Texas A&M obsession, it's a South Carolina obsession Those are teams that we actually beat on the frickin field this year.


Tell that to the Cotton and Outback Bowls. Tell that to the AP and Coaches Poll voters that ranked them higher than us at the end of the year.

I see the final standings and try to figure out what it's going to take for LSU to finish ahead of those guys next year, and losing 10 very good players who have eligibility left is not the best way to go about that.
Posted by mule74
Watersound Beach
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 1/10/13 at 11:01 am to
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Tell that to the Cotton and Outback Bowls. Tell that to the AP and Coaches Poll voters that ranked them higher than us at the end of the year.


Outside of being in the final two leading into the title game, why do you care where we are ranked? What's the differnce between #9 and #14 or #11?

Also, I've been to the Cap One Bowl. It sucks. I'd take the Chick Fil A any day.
This post was edited on 1/10/13 at 11:03 am
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 11:02 am to
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Tell that to the Cotton and Outback Bowls


What exactly does this have to do with anything at all? You cant seriously base who you think is a better football team by which bowl selects them. Come on.

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I see the final standings and try to figure out what it's going to take for LSU to finish ahead of those guys next year


You look at the final standings trying to figure out how we can beat a team that we beat this year?

Maybe you should check out how much A&M is losing before you get your panties too bunched.

Also check our whats going to happen UGA's defense.
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