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Rewatched the game.........

Posted on 1/2/13 at 10:13 am
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 1/2/13 at 10:13 am
I know, most of you studs can instantly watch, recognize, process, and remember every snap of every game live, but some of us tards have to rewatch to really get an understanding of how a game played out. This thread is for those that like to actually know what we're talking about, so all the Madden dynasty coaches, GTFO.

I admit I kind of half arse watched the game at a party so I was prepared for the worst.

What I saw was just a great football game between two very good teams in a great bowl environment.

The first half was very competitive and both teams showed that they were prepared and motivated to win this game.

Clemson was successful at moving the chains on long drives against a fierce pass rush by LSU throughout the half and put together a great drive to answer our score, but after that didn't have a whole lot of success in the red zone. Boyd was composed under duress and Deandre Hopkins was fricking great snagging everything thrown his way. Very impressed with both of them.

LSU's gameplan was to attack, and we were throwing on the vast majority of first downs, which I loved, and most of the fanbase had been calling for years. But the OL had a lot of trouble early on against a very aggressive Clemson DL giving up 4 sacks in the 1st quarter alone.

But the defense was getting stops, and Mett made good reads and throws and looked to be settling down as the OL played better in the second quarter. After a big 4th down stop, we get a nice long pass to Odell to get into Clemson territory with a great chance to score before half.

Then Mett forces a throw he shouldn't have into traffic, although IMO the DB just makes a great read and phenomenal catch to make the pick. Still, you wish he would just throw that away as it would only been a short gain anyway. Just not worth the risk there. There were also several receivers and defenders bunched together, which makes the throw even worse.

Then a completely BS PF puts Clemson on our side of the field, but the D comes up huge again and we get out of the half up 1.

Hill breaks off the great run to start the second half, a nice adjustment by the coaching staff catching them thinking pass. The D gets another 3 and out and you start to feel like we're wearing them down.

We get into Clemson territory and Mett JUST misses Boone for the deep ball as we go for the jugular. Again, I like the call, and we miss ending that game by an eyelash.

We don't convert on 3rd and 5 despite a PI on Wright that probably should have been called. I'm frustrated with the route selection again, as all of our receivers are running routes right at the sticks. I really wish we had WRs running routes at different levels on the D in a situation like that instead of just short slants. The OL was playing well enough at that point to give us time to let a play develop.

D gets another huge stop and Boyd comes up limping and we're about to put this game away.

After 2 runs by Hilliard (oh right, he still plays), we're at 3rd and 2, and again we look to throw, which I'm sure a lot of people are upset about. I actually thought the play was a good one, and it looks like we're trying to go to Odell down the left sideline but it's covered well and the protection breaks down and Mett has to run, something no one ever wants to see. Frustrating, but again I'm ok with the call.

Then Sam forces the big fumble and at this point I'm really thinking Clemson is done. Our D is dominating them at this point.

Now we try to start wearing them down with 3 straight runs by Hill that get us down to the 7. On 3rd and 3 I'm thinking we're in 4 down territory with 2 runs. But we run the slant to Jarvis and he is MAULED and can't make the catch. Had Jarvis jumped up calling for the flag I have NO DOUBT the refs would have called it, but he didn't whine like some WRs would have, and it cost us.

I don't hate the play call, because Jarvis probably catches that 99% in practice and it should have absolutely been first and goal with the PI, but I really think you run it twice there. BUT, this was not some terrible call that I'm sure a lot of people are pointing to in hindsight.

I got the feeling that the gameplan was clearly to establish the tone for 2013 that Mettenberger is going to be allowed to take charge of this offense. Unfortunately, Clemson's D showed up after last year's epic embarrassment and hung in there when our D was shutting down their O. Give them credit for making us earn everything.

LSU gets pinned deep, Wright slips on what should have been an easy first down, and we run Hill on 3rd and 2 but get stuffed again in short yardage. Copeland doesn't pick up the outside rusher. Again, frustrating, but Clemson just makes a good play.

Next drive, ANOTHER BS call gives Clemson 1st and goal, but the D holds for a FG, although the D is starting to show signs that they're getting tired. BIG return by Ford, and LSU is in good shape.

Run Ware on first down and Clemson's DL is swarming and it's a short gain. Nothing open on 2nd so a dumpoff to Ware gets us to 3rd and 8 at midfield. On 3rd, nothing develops downfield, OL breaks down and Clemson gets sack #6. Very worried about our D going back on the field at this point.

3rd and 4 at midfield and A frickING HORRIBLE BS delay penalty on Rasco gives them a 1st. Complete bullshite.

We get them in 3rd and long and Boyd makes a nice throw under pressure and Ford makes a great adjustment and catch. Again, just Clemson making a great play which leads to the TD which was another great throw by Boyd. Reid doesn't get his head around to make a play on the ball. But the D holds and doesn't give up the 2 pt conversion despite being on the field for 11 plays.

At this point, we know the deal. With 2:47 left, we get a couple of first downs and the game is over.

Great call on first down as Boone is WIDE open, and Mett makes a good throw under pressure for 8.

2nd and 2, a PERFECT play action call, no pressure on Mett and Landry is WIDE fricking open and Mett just misses the throw. He hadn't missed many, but that was the one that counted.

3rd and 2, and you just gotta run. The funny thing is, against Bama, we did the exact opposite, it didn't work, and everyone hates Miles. This time, he's aggressive, going for the first down, which is what everyone always says they want, but it just didn't feel like it was the right time.

I'm not going to blast the call like everyone else because hindsight is 20/20, but the bottom line is I didn't like the actual play called. If you want to throw, fine. But damn the DE for Clemson was having the game of his life. Don't like giving him the chance to get his hands up and knock it down.

On D, 4th and 16. It's funny that they don't go for the 1st there if we hadn't blocked the PAT in the first half. Would have been tied at 24 and we get the ball back with over a minute left near midfield. Sucks.

Lucky arse heave by Boyd and yet another amazing catch by Hopkins gets them the first. Again, Reid doesn't get his head around when he definitely could have knocked that ball down.

Another fricking BS PI on Reid sets Clemson up nicely at LSU's 42, and the rest is history.

Overall, like I said, two very good teams that played a great football game. Both teams were prepared and played hard, and both were aggressive on both sides of the ball the entire game. Unfortunately, we couldn't put the game away in the 4th.

Very proud of the team, and like I said, I think Miles wanted to show Mett that the coaches are confident that he is the guy to lead this team going into his senior year.

Clemson played well, but I like the fact that Mett knows this is his team, and I look forward to the aggressive approach in 2013.

Gonna be a long 8 months though no doubt

TLDR GFY
Posted by tgr4ever
Gwinnett, baw
Member since Jul 2011
16214 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 10:16 am to
Great post. Next year will be fun!
Posted by stapuffmarshy
lower 9
Member since Apr 2010
17507 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 10:19 am to
Clemson played very well and hasn't gotten enough credit for that


there were a couple of third and shorts where LSU ran and didn't make it as well

all the angst about play calling....well LSU threw often and was aggressive as they have been, I really don't get the ppl screaming about play calls but whatever


4th and 16 was just such a killer


and LSU will be right back in the hunt next year, sky isn't falling people, geesh
Posted by Tmacelroy12
Houston
Member since Aug 2012
5489 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 10:20 am to
Yeah, I'm not one to really think officiating is lopsided, but that game we got screwed on penalties.
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
29167 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 10:20 am to
How many screen passes did we throw to slow down the rush?
Only 1 I could think of is the middle screen we ran in the 3rd quarter.
This post was edited on 1/2/13 at 10:21 am
Posted by tgr4ever
Gwinnett, baw
Member since Jul 2011
16214 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 10:21 am to
quote:

LSU will be right back in the hunt next year, sky isn't falling people, geesh
What? We are declining!


Posted by stapuffmarshy
lower 9
Member since Apr 2010
17507 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 10:23 am to
quote:

Yeah, I'm not one to really think officiating is lopsided, but that game we got screwed on penalties



same here but it did seem Clemson got calls "when" they needed them but it's part of the game
Posted by LesGeaux45
Member since Nov 2009
9240 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 10:24 am to
Great post. Good analysis on the play calls. We've been screaming for years for Les to not force the run if it's getting stuffed. He opted to throw and it didn't work out. I didnt agree with the decision to throw on third down and two, but at least it showed some willingness to not always go with three yards and a cloud of dust.

Still a gut wrenching loss, though.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
64459 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 10:25 am to
You know what I got out of reading that? In your description, Every pass that was not completed in which there was a possible defensive interference on the play, and on the Mett interception, the routes were quick slants. That's right, about 5 times during the game we ran a basic quick slant route and expect college defensive backs to not be prepared to cover the route. It really was our go to route on the season, and opposing defenses could easily prepare for it and break it up. Our passing game is so simplistic and easy to defend.

The td pass to Landry, he faked the slant and cut back outside to get open.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
62583 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 10:29 am to
tl;dr

and I really mean that
Posted by Mie2cents
the round part of earth
Member since Dec 2012
3462 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 10:30 am to
quote:

Then Mett forces a throw he shouldn't have into traffic,


I disagree on this. The receiver (I forgot who) should have come back to meet the ball instead of waiting on it like high school receivers do. All GOOD recivers know to come back to the ball.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
64459 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 10:44 am to
The interception was Mett's fault. We had a slant and a back on a flare on the top side. Mett checked the slant, covered, then looked at the flare, covered, that was the time to throw the ball away. It was first down! Instead, Mett looked to a third receiver back across the middle of the field. This is textbook, "Don't throw late over the middle of the field." You hear former quarterback turned analyst say this all of the time.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
60525 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 10:54 am to
quote:

How many screen passes did we throw to slow down the rush?


Do you really think a screen pass is going to slow down a 4 man rush with an inside stunt.

I am all for the screens, but it would do nothing to neutralize the rush, just as a draw wouldnt given the pressure was right up the pipe.

Now, if they were bringing multiple blitzers, yes a screen would break their back.
Posted by TigerDice
Canton, OH
Member since Nov 2012
258 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 10:58 am to
Our offensive coaching staff is unable to make effective adjustments. Why no screen plays?

It is obvious they can't call plays to gain advantage in numbers or leverage. Just run our plays no matter where the defense lines up.

When we need 1 yard, why bunch up and run into the teeth of the defense? Why? Why? Why?

This offense has virtually no misdirection. Many high school offenses are more sophisticated than LSU's.

After winning the BCS C.G., Saban still wanted to improve his offense by hiring Boise St's OC, but his protege, Mustchamp, beat him to it.

Watch out for Florida once they fully institue Boise St.'s offense.

Miles, on the other hand, stands put with the offense that couldn't cross Bama's 50 yard line--totally different mindset.
This post was edited on 1/2/13 at 10:59 am
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36783 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 11:00 am to
quote:

Clemson played very well and hasn't gotten enough credit for that


This. The way the game unfolded, LSU should have won. But, throughout the ballgame, the best team did win.
Posted by TDTGodfather
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
6169 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 11:01 am to
quote:


Do you really think a screen pass is going to slow down a 4 man rush with an inside stunt.

I am all for the screens, but it would do nothing to neutralize the rush, just as a draw wouldnt given the pressure was right up the pipe.

Now, if they were bringing multiple blitzers, yes a screen would break their back.

i kige this.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
55785 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 11:01 am to
good post, but the defense is getting raped by the NFL...

and our schedule is brutal

Will be fun and tough challenge
Posted by samaham
Georgia
Member since Aug 2009
302 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 11:01 am to
Was at the game and all of us were screaming run the ball on 2nd and 2. You have to be able to get 2 yards with 2 downs. This at the very least forces Clemson to use 2 timeouts. The truth is we did not win the line of scrimmage battle again versus a mediocre defensive team in Clemson. It wasn't the play calling as much as the lack of execution. We simply have too much talent on the offensive side of the football to be so ineffective. I love Les and have supported him 100% but I think we must get an offensive coordinator who can put the pieces together. Overall a poor offensive performance again.
Posted by jhhingle
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2007
3245 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 11:02 am to
Thanks, I was doing NYE festivities as well and watched just partially except got to watch the 4thQ(sigh); recorded and was going to try to rewatch to see what really went on but now won't have to with your description. Feel a tad better with it now for 13 (and waiting for TAF renewal forms that will be coming shortly!)!
Posted by Thunder Tiger
Member since Sep 2011
2608 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 11:15 am to
quote:

This offense has virtually no misdirection.

Thought about this particularly after the Florida game. It seemed they were constantly running or faking end-arounds or reverses. There was usually a blur of players moving in different directions in the backfield. We on the other hand usually had our obvious right up the gut run for little or no gain.
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