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re: TM7 putting in work!

Posted on 12/10/12 at 4:33 pm to
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Member since Feb 2007
103284 posts
Posted on 12/10/12 at 4:33 pm to
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I agree. They wanted swag, but couldn't handle,it when he brought it to the table


I'm the opposite. I'm of the persuasion that Miles should have never kicked him off the team no matter what. nothing he did was worse than what Jefferson did to this franchis.
Posted by LSU=Champions
BAWxtard | Tier 1
Member since Apr 2004
22257 posts
Posted on 12/10/12 at 4:33 pm to
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Ran 100m and 200m in HS, fastest time was 10.9 for the 100m. I cringe to think how much faster I could've been with a faster start. I had a slow 40 time because I wasn't the fast out of the blocks


Way to make this thread about you.
Posted by Chuck U Farley
The 318
Member since Oct 2007
8994 posts
Posted on 12/10/12 at 4:33 pm to
I doubt he would post that he may run it if he wasnt close already.

I expect him to really open some eyes in the cone drills. I have seen some videos of him doing cone drills, bag drills, basic change of direction drills. He changes direction faster than any player I have ever seen. He can run full speed in one direction and turn around and be at full speed again with little effort. its really impressive and that is one reason he causes so many turnovers. QB's dont expect him to be there quite so fast and throw picks. RB's dont cover the ball up fast enough becuase they think they have a second or two and he closes in and strips it. I'm gonna be rooting for the kid, loved watching every second he was on the field.
Posted by Tmacelroy12
Houston
Member since Aug 2012
5489 posts
Posted on 12/10/12 at 4:40 pm to
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Way to make this thread about you.

I know

I was just saying that speed is pretty dynamic, while still tooting my own horn.
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 12/10/12 at 4:41 pm to
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ok so now your ranging from 4.45 to 4.5


Never said anything other wise.

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yes this is more of a range than 4.5-4.55 or 4.6


Please quote me where I said Mathieu would run a 4.6
Posted by TigerStripes30
Alexandria, LA
Member since Dec 2011
6373 posts
Posted on 12/10/12 at 4:45 pm to
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ok so now your ranging from 4.45 to 4.5


Never said anything other wise.

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yes this is more of a range than 4.5-4.55 or 4.6


Please quote me where I said Mathieu would run a 4.6




Wasnt aiming it toward you...some were sayin mid 4.5s
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 12/10/12 at 4:45 pm to
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I think hes a mid to low 4.4s.


So do I.

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But, if hes running in the 4.4s right now, shaving off a few 100ths of a second is not unrealistic


Going from a 4.45 to a 4.39 is not a "few 100ths of a second". Shaving off that much time is huge.

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But, Tyrann is an exceptional athlete who can run in the 4.4s


Never said he wasn't. Anything in the 4.3 range is ELITE speed. I don't think Tyrann Mathieu has elite speed to the likes of Ron Brooks and RGIII.

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Shaving off a few milliseconds isnt unrealistic for him.


We aren't talking about milliseconds.
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 12/10/12 at 4:47 pm to
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ok so now your ranging from 4.45 to 4.5


quote:

Wasnt aiming it toward you


yes you were.

Posted by TigerStripes30
Alexandria, LA
Member since Dec 2011
6373 posts
Posted on 12/10/12 at 4:54 pm to
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Never said he wasn't. Anything in the 4.3 range is ELITE speed. I don't think Tyrann Mathieu has elite speed to the likes of Ron Brooks and RGIII.



you just countered your own argument...RGIII didnt run a 4.3 so he isnt elite by what you just said...am i right ? and i believe if you run 4.43-4.47 regularly with the correct coaching and getting technique down correctly you can have drastic jumps to 4.39
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George
Member since Aug 2004
78206 posts
Posted on 12/10/12 at 4:55 pm to
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TM7 putting in work!



Don't care. frick him.
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 12/10/12 at 5:02 pm to
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you just countered your own argument


No I didn't

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RGIII didnt run a 4.3 so he isnt elite by what you just said...am i right ?


No I said 4.3 was elite. I didn't say anything over that is NOT elite.

Yeah official RG3 was a 4.41, I was thinking back to unofficial which was a 4.37. Even strengthens my point. I don't think Mathieu is as fast as RG3, therefore, I do not think Mahtieu will run a 4.39.

Ron Brooks ran a 4.37. Mathieu is not that fast.

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4.43-4.47 regularly with the correct coaching and getting technique down correctly you can have drastic jumps to 4.39


Wrong. If you are running a 4.46 or 4.47 regularly, you are not going to shave it down to a 4.39 by having better technique unless your form just completely sucks arse, which it doesnt if you moving that fast.

Not sure why the hell you want to argue this so damn much. I have said multiple times I think Mathieu will run in the 4.45-4.50 range. My opinion doesn't mean shite, but the fact is you dont go just run a 4.39 because you train on your form. We could all be wrong and he could come out and run a 4.30. I would be willing to bet a lot of money that he doesn't though. I'm not bashing him or saying that he will be slow and I am not saying he isn't working hard or that he isn't a great athlete. But running a sub 4.4 would put him among the fastest players in the NFL and I just don't see that happening.

ETA: The point you are missing by continuing to talk about improving with training on his form and technique. EVERYONE is doing the same thing and working just as hard as he is. So my point is, everyone has still worked on their form just as much as he has and still only a handful of players ever get a sub 4.4 40. I just don't see him being among the elite top 5 or 10 speed wise in any given combine.
This post was edited on 12/10/12 at 5:05 pm
Posted by Tmacelroy12
Houston
Member since Aug 2012
5489 posts
Posted on 12/10/12 at 5:03 pm to
I think anyone that was 1/100th of a second from breaking a national record has elite speed. Anyone that has to turn down the Olympics to play football has elite speed. But what do I know
Posted by Riverwood
Tha' Frick?
Member since Sep 2009
1689 posts
Posted on 12/10/12 at 5:11 pm to
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I can't believe the hate mathieu gets from this board after two of the greatest years we've seen from a player in this schools history. He made dumbass decisions but come on he still love this school.


Kids.

Who haven't experienced the real kinds of things that can effect their lives.

TM deserves as much grace as anyone posting here.

Actually, more.

His contributions have been far greater.

Roll with it, HB.
Posted by stwepu
DFW
Member since Sep 2009
604 posts
Posted on 12/10/12 at 5:11 pm to
You know what's going to be awesome. This guy with several hundred thousand in his bank account. His decision making will likely improve at that point.
Posted by SouljaBreauxTellEm
Mizz
Member since Aug 2009
29343 posts
Posted on 12/10/12 at 5:11 pm to
I think he is a 4.4 guy.

I'd love to see him get 4.3.

Geaux Tyrann!
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31058 posts
Posted on 12/10/12 at 5:14 pm to
[quote]This guy with several hundred thousand in his bank account. His decision making will likely improve at that point.
[/quote


Hmmm, not sure about that. Don't get me wrong, I'd love for it to happen but I don't know.

I do wish him well though.
Posted by MrPackSix
Lakeview/God's Country
Member since Oct 2009
8220 posts
Posted on 12/10/12 at 5:15 pm to
Hope he does well but i still won't forget how he selfishly put himself and his vices before his own teammates and school
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31058 posts
Posted on 12/10/12 at 5:17 pm to
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Hope he does well but i still won't forget how he selfishly put himself and his vices before his own teammates and school



Pretty much sums up how I feel about him. I don't hate the kid or wish anything bad on him at all.

Hope he can get himself straightened out.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112469 posts
Posted on 12/10/12 at 5:17 pm to
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First thread about TM7 u lurking fricking troll! O and ur mom said hi!


how am i a lurker?

And where do you get off calling anyone a troll?
This post was edited on 12/10/12 at 5:18 pm
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31058 posts
Posted on 12/10/12 at 5:22 pm to
Pardon my ignorance, but what is this "Big Six" thing I see some posters using?

It's really piquing my curiosity.
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