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re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias

Posted on 12/4/12 at 3:04 pm to
Posted by Double Down
Mayor of St. George
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 3:04 pm to
Numbers don't lie, fellas. Why is everybody busting balls over actual statistics? I am not out beating the bushes and crying foul over every perceived discrepancy but this (if true) is pretty legit.
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 3:26 pm to
Posted by TexasTiger1185
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2011
13076 posts
Posted on 12/4/12 at 3:32 pm to
This suggests that we aren't as disciplined and play more aggressive football.

Which, contrary to your belief, is actually more likely than a bias towards alabama.
Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 3:36 pm to
quote:

I performed a t test comparing the penalties called on LSU and Alabama during the regular season over the ten years from 2003 to 2012. I took the data of penalties each game from the official LSU and Alabama sites. Over this period each team played 118 games.

LSU's penalties per year goes like this: 89, 73, 74, 76, 76, 104, 74, 91, 67, 89.
Alabama's penalties per year: 48, 48, 63, 63, 48, 55, 70, 70, 66, 69.

LSU's average penalties per game is 6.8898.
Alabama's average penalties per game is 5.0847.

Using the t test comparing all the games, I get a p value of 0.0001! This means that there is certainly a difference between the penalties of these two teams. The important question is why?

I see two possible explanations.
1. Alabama is a more disciplined team. I find this to be highly unlikely as they would have to be more disciplined consistently of over a ten year period which included multiple different coaches on each team, including one coach who coached at both schools!
2. There is a bias for Alabama. This is much more likely. It would not take a conspiracy, just the subtle bias that is a result of the current structure of the SEC head offices. Also seems likely when we look at the other areas where Alabama seems to have created an advantage for itself.



Posted by Maize&BlueTiger
Chahlston, y'all.
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 3:38 pm to
How does the comparison work when it's 'Bama vs. Auburn. Or Tennessee. Or Mississippi State? Is it a pro-Bama bias or an anti-LSU bias?

Your data is insufficient to justify any conclusion.
Posted by CalTiger53
California
Member since Oct 2011
9058 posts
Posted on 12/4/12 at 3:51 pm to
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Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias


Good morning, where have you been? NO Evidence needed, just use the eyeball test.
Posted by GhostBuster6
Nashville
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 4:00 pm to
quote:

I performed a t test comparing the penalties called on LSU and Alabama during the regular
Posted by MetryTyger
Metro NOLA, LA
Member since Jan 2004
15609 posts
Posted on 12/4/12 at 4:04 pm to
quote:

Stingray

Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias


Possibly the biggest understatement ever uttered by a living organism since the Big Bang, in this Galaxy or any other. I think it may have even been the 11th Commandment.....
Posted by UncleLogger
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 4:08 pm to
quote:

Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias

Posted by lsutigermall
Plantation Trace
Member since Nov 2006
7301 posts
Posted on 12/4/12 at 4:30 pm to
Nope
Posted by Statestreet
Gueydan
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 4:35 pm to
Love the stats...
Posted by Papa Tigah
TIGER ISLAND, LA
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 5:09 pm to
Posted by bulldog95
North Louisiana
Member since Jan 2011
20743 posts
Posted on 12/4/12 at 5:52 pm to
Miles manhood is bigger than sabans causing saban to complain to the refs where they realize they too are inadequate and now we have a case of penis envy in which the refs decide to punish miles team.

Its always been about who does or doesn't have a foot long corndog.
Posted by LSURoss
SWLAish
Member since Dec 2007
15509 posts
Posted on 12/4/12 at 8:00 pm to
GET OVER IT!!! They are good and they beat LSU. The blame game around here is fricking pathetic.
Posted by LSURep864
Moscow, Idaho
Member since Nov 2007
10973 posts
Posted on 12/4/12 at 8:02 pm to
What alpha are you using ? Not that it matters because the p value will be smaller than any possible alpha
Posted by samson73103
Krypton
Member since Nov 2008
8262 posts
Posted on 12/4/12 at 9:04 pm to
quote:

Alabama is a more disciplined team


This^
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 12/4/12 at 9:15 pm to
no h0 no care
Posted by DocBugbear
Arlington, Texas
Member since Mar 2008
7969 posts
Posted on 12/4/12 at 9:23 pm to
Instead of this analysis, I'd recommend another couple things you can do. 1) Take LSU and Alabama and compare penalties per game in SEC games vs, non-SEC games where other refs are used with the same teams. And 2) Rather than just look at penalties called on the teams, I'd look at the rate at which penalties are called on the opposition.
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
28911 posts
Posted on 12/4/12 at 10:10 pm to
Not much evidence here. Now if you could show that for the past 10 years Bama was the least penalized team in the SEC year after year you might have something.
Posted by Chris Warner
Perdido Bay
Member since Jan 2009
5575 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 7:49 am to
*bump*
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