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re: Big Beer dresses up in craft brewers' clothing
Posted on 11/16/12 at 12:20 pm to Rohan2Reed
Posted on 11/16/12 at 12:20 pm to Rohan2Reed
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Posted by Rohan2Reed The stranglehold that BMC has on professional sporting venues is a fricking tragedy. There's basically zero chance craft breweries could work their way into MLB ballparks, NFL stadiums and NBA arenas.
I drank some goose island at yankee stadium this summer. Hhhmmm, i wonder why?
Posted on 11/16/12 at 12:22 pm to BMoney
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You don't think Miller is deceiving customers into believing they are drinking an independently produced craft beer? After all, the label says Henry Weinhard Brewing Co. And for every one of those 6 packs on the shelf, there is less space for a true craft beer.
According to Wikipedia Full Sail brews those beers, SABMiller just owns the naming rights to a brewery that was founded in Portland in 1856.
Posted on 11/16/12 at 12:24 pm to Rohan2Reed
They sell Great Lakes at all Cleveland stadiums.
Posted on 11/16/12 at 12:26 pm to rutiger
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Guess im responsible and not an alcoholic
no doubt, but you aren't the demo that is going to buy their beer. redneck working men and poor college students who consume a high volume of beers will always stick with the cheap readily available stuff. They are conditioned to drink it in high quantities....
Posted on 11/16/12 at 12:40 pm to Rohan2Reed
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The stranglehold that BMC has on professional sporting venues is a fricking tragedy. There's basically zero chance craft breweries could work their way into MLB ballparks, NFL stadiums and NBA arenas.
Surly brews a west coast IPA called Bandwagon that is EXCLUSIVELY available at Target Field during Minnesota Twins games. Some of their other stuff is regularly available there as well.
Posted on 11/16/12 at 12:53 pm to Rohan2Reed
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MLB ballparks
Safeco has the best selection that I've seen. Elysian Fields and Pyramid are available there.
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NFL stadiums
F'n Cowboys Stadium....Miller Lite, the ONLY beer of the Dallas Cowboys.
Posted on 11/16/12 at 12:54 pm to rutiger
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Guess im responsible and not an alcoholic.
Whoa, let's not get carried away here.
Posted on 11/16/12 at 12:58 pm to Fratastic423
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According to Wikipedia Full Sail brews those beers, SABMiller just owns the naming rights to a brewery that was founded in Portland in 1856.
The Henry Weinhard's Private Reserve brand survives today and is currently owned by SABMiller, and some of its beers are brewed under contract at the Full Sail Brewing Company.
You will not find that on their bottles or their website. You can't tell me that's not deceptive or misleading.
Posted on 11/16/12 at 1:14 pm to Rohan2Reed
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Ultimately, the success of BMC has more to do with consumers' lack of taste and/or knowledge of what good beer is and less to do with fraudulent marketing strategies.
The latter has a lot to do with the former. If someone is ignorant of something and they can take advantage of that to make more money, you damn sure know they will.
It's deceptive, but it's not illegal. It's up to the consumer to make the choice. It wouldn't be the first time the American public has been deceived about a food/drink product and it won't be the last.
I feel like you can usually tell when a new "craft" beer is BS just by the name/packaging. Henry Weinhard's just sounds corny and made up. It sounds like something some marketing firm was paid way too much to come up with. Same with Shock Top.
This post was edited on 11/16/12 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 11/16/12 at 1:15 pm to BayouBengal
Southern Star is sold at Reliant for Texan games. They got in there last year.
Posted on 11/16/12 at 1:19 pm to List Eater
You're slowly starting to see better beers at sporting events because the public is demanding them. Once people finally take the blinders off and realize there is a lot of good beer out there, they usually venture away from the big guys and don't come back.
Posted on 11/16/12 at 1:33 pm to BayouBengal
yes I understand that a handful of professional sports venues have a craft beer or two available, but that pales in comparison to how ubiquitous BMC is at these venues .. and isn't a valid counterpoint to my claim.
Posted on 11/16/12 at 1:42 pm to Rohan2Reed
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and isn't a valid counterpoint to my claim.
But it is evidence of change. Progress can take time. But each time a new craft brew gets added to a big time venue, new people get to try it, and so on and so forth.
Posted on 11/16/12 at 2:03 pm to ProjectP2294
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But it is evidence of change. Progress can take time. But each time a new craft brew gets added to a big time venue, new people get to try it, and so on and so forth
Exactly. It's not as though they're just going to kick all the big name beers out immediately, but when you see smaller names slowly moving into a place where it's traditionally dominated by AB/Miller/Coors, etc. that's a step in the right direction and I think it will continue to move that way now that the American public is becoming more knowledgeable about what is and isn't shitty beer.
I would love to be able to drink Lagunitas Daytime IPA's at a Braves game instead of Bud or their "fancy list" of Heineken and Stella, etc.
This post was edited on 11/16/12 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 11/16/12 at 2:04 pm to ProjectP2294
good article and good thread
I don't want to go back through and quote specifics, but I will say two things.
First, there is absolutely no time or place for BMC products in my life. There are many, many other options out there, from beers like Southern Star's Bombshell Blonde to NOLA blond, Ska Mexican Logger, to many ambers and pale ales. And with many great craft beer producers canning their beers now, you don't even have the "no glass" excuse anymore. I signed up for Untappd a year ago last September. For those of you unfamiliar, Untappd lets you log your beers, and you earn badges for these log ins. I've gotten to the point that I generally only log a beer if I've never logged it before or am having a beer at a unique location. There is a badge called "Lite Weight" that you earn simply by drinking one Bud Light, one Miller Lite, and one Coors Light. I am proud to say that I still have not earned ths badge, though sadly I have had two of the three. I cannot remember the last time I drank a Bud Light and have zero intentions of doing so at any time, not only because of their shitty tasting beer, but moreso because I will not support any business that uses deception and strong arm tactics to limit the growth of craft brewing in the US.
Second, the point about not being able to find craft beers in ball parks is valid. I can walk up to any vendor in Minute Maid Park and buy 5 different kinds of BMC beers, but there is one stand alone booth that sold Saint Arnold's, and only it's Amber last time I was there. There are four breweries in the Houston area that are either bottling or canning beer right now, but you have a hard time finding them in the parks.
I don't want to go back through and quote specifics, but I will say two things.
First, there is absolutely no time or place for BMC products in my life. There are many, many other options out there, from beers like Southern Star's Bombshell Blonde to NOLA blond, Ska Mexican Logger, to many ambers and pale ales. And with many great craft beer producers canning their beers now, you don't even have the "no glass" excuse anymore. I signed up for Untappd a year ago last September. For those of you unfamiliar, Untappd lets you log your beers, and you earn badges for these log ins. I've gotten to the point that I generally only log a beer if I've never logged it before or am having a beer at a unique location. There is a badge called "Lite Weight" that you earn simply by drinking one Bud Light, one Miller Lite, and one Coors Light. I am proud to say that I still have not earned ths badge, though sadly I have had two of the three. I cannot remember the last time I drank a Bud Light and have zero intentions of doing so at any time, not only because of their shitty tasting beer, but moreso because I will not support any business that uses deception and strong arm tactics to limit the growth of craft brewing in the US.
Second, the point about not being able to find craft beers in ball parks is valid. I can walk up to any vendor in Minute Maid Park and buy 5 different kinds of BMC beers, but there is one stand alone booth that sold Saint Arnold's, and only it's Amber last time I was there. There are four breweries in the Houston area that are either bottling or canning beer right now, but you have a hard time finding them in the parks.
Posted on 11/16/12 at 2:06 pm to kage
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I would love to be able to drink Lagunitas Daytime IPA's at a Braves game
I'd just love to be able to drink local. I enjoy going to baseball games at new stadiums, and enjoy drinking beer local to the area I visit. How great would it be to have a variety of local beer options at the ballparks?
Posted on 11/16/12 at 2:07 pm to LoneStarTiger
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I'd just love to be able to drink local
Well, that too. I just happened to pick up a 6 pack of it the other day and it's fuggin delicious, and that one was on my mind. I really like that they made a lower ABV IPA option. If I'm sitting in 90 degree weather in the sun at a Braves game, I don't think I'm gonna want an 7-8% beer.
This post was edited on 11/16/12 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 11/16/12 at 2:11 pm to kage
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Well, that too. I just happened to pick up a 6 pack of it the other day and it's fuggin delicious, and that one was on my mind. I really like that they made a lower ABV IPA option.
Lagunitas is a great beer producer. I'm excited that they are opening a Chicago brewery too, hopefully we see more of their stuff on our shelves as a result
This post was edited on 11/16/12 at 2:33 pm
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