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Saban is a football genius. (Read first)

Posted on 11/12/12 at 8:25 am
Posted by Tigerdemand
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 11/12/12 at 8:25 am
First off let me start by saying in no means am I a Saban fan. And the reason this post is a week late is because I wanted to research to make sure Saban was calling the plays the last drive.

This is what I noticed:

On the last drive of one possession games lsu always plays a prevent until the other team gets about to the lsu 35 and Chavis dials up the blitz. Well Saban knew this and exploited it to the max. He knew that lsu defense would be tough inside the thirty. So he comes out n takes what the d gives him. Ah mcarron knows the next three plays before he runs the first one. They can throw wherever as long as they get a first down because of clock stoppage rule to move chains (which I think needs to be done away with). Well they moved the ball and ran a no huddle so lsu could not adjust. Then as soon as they got to about the thirty five he threw an incomplete pass. Saban knew this gave lsu time to adjust and they would be coming out dialing up blitzes. And what is the biggest play you can make against a blitz. A screen. And I do believe that he either gave mcarron the choice or he signaled in the direction once they saw lsu line up. The screen went to the side lsu sent three extra blitzers. And he could have walked to end zone.

Now I didn't notice this right as it was happening so I can't say I would have done the blitz on that play differently. But I do know that the conservative two safeties deep doesn't work in college. The clock stops when teams get first downs. It is too easy for a team to drive 80 yards in 45 seconds on a prevent defense in college. They knew bama just needed a field goal so they weren't going for the home run. It was actually as lsu got the ball back that I realized how Saban baited is into that screen
Posted by Tigerdemand
Member since Oct 2012
11 posts
Posted on 11/12/12 at 8:26 am to
Keep in mind this is just my opinion. And I am currently working on my masters in sports psychology and intend on coaching at the college level someday.
Posted by JAF65
Houma,La
Member since Sep 2007
802 posts
Posted on 11/12/12 at 8:28 am to
It sounds good and carry's some weight.
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 11/12/12 at 8:30 am to
no matter the coach, anything can happen on any given Saturday night.
Posted by WavinWilly
Wavin Away in Sharlo
Member since Oct 2010
8836 posts
Posted on 11/12/12 at 8:30 am to
The guy has won what, 3 crystal balls? I'd say you don't get there without being a football genius.
Posted by tigerjab
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2006
379 posts
Posted on 11/12/12 at 8:30 am to
It's already been stated that defense changed call on that play. Cornerback was not suppose to blitz on play but did not hear the call on field....Not sure it would of mattered...who knows
This post was edited on 11/12/12 at 8:34 am
Posted by hehateme2285
Katy, TX
Member since Dec 2007
5253 posts
Posted on 11/12/12 at 8:32 am to
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And what is the biggest play you can make against a blitz. A screen. And I do believe that he either gave mcarron the choice or he signaled in the direction once they saw lsu line up.


This was said after the game by either AJ or Saban. They knew that we blitzed in that situation, and once we lined up, they knew they could hit the screen for a huge gain
Posted by Corn Dawg Nation
Member since Oct 2009
3576 posts
Posted on 11/12/12 at 8:37 am to
If you would've watched the bama/a&m game, you would've known that Barret Jones called the screen pass.... They mentioned it on the telecast....

So there goes that. Thanks for the info though. Sorry you wasted your time.
Posted by DEG
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2009
10638 posts
Posted on 11/12/12 at 8:39 am to
Not sure how genius it was or that he thought we would be tough to score on inside the 30 - seeing as how they made it look easy to end the first half.
Posted by ATLTiger
#TreyBiletnikoffs
Member since Sep 2003
45421 posts
Posted on 11/12/12 at 8:42 am to
quote:

If you would've watched the bama/a&m game, you would've known that Barret Jones called the screen pass.... They mentioned it on the telecast....



yeah I thought that was interesting. wondering how that worked out. I would think it was a matter of him reading the front and pointing something out to AJ and him checking to it. I really need to watch that drive again.

quote:

So there goes that


not necessarily, Saban did say afterward that they knew our tendencies, so it's probably something the Bama coaches had prepped their offense for.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
59682 posts
Posted on 11/12/12 at 9:01 am to
quote:

On the last drive of one possession games lsu always plays a prevent until the other team gets about to the lsu 35 and Chavis dials up the blitz


LSU blitzed a corner on every play during that drive.

quote:

But I do know that the conservative two safeties deep doesn't work in college.


Absolute statements like this are a key to being a quality coach at the college level.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
45810 posts
Posted on 11/12/12 at 9:04 am to
This doesn't mean Saban is a football genius. It just means he is a football coach.
Posted by byubengalboy
Cypress, tx.
Member since Nov 2008
3719 posts
Posted on 11/12/12 at 9:06 am to
quote:

Saban is a football genius.


yeah right....he got outcoached at home by a guy who Les outcoached on the road three weeks ago. ya' know? Saban can coach, obviously. what separates Saban from most is the heritage he inherited and his ability to recruit to the level that heritage historically demands.

credit bama for it's lineage of legendary to very good hc's. discredit LSU for the pre-Saban coaching carosel and not making Saban an offer he couldn't refuse.

Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
59151 posts
Posted on 11/12/12 at 9:06 am to
quote:

LSU blitzed a corner on every play during that drive.


Thank you.
Posted by KT70
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
1272 posts
Posted on 11/12/12 at 9:09 am to
quote:

Saban is a football genius.


"Not so fast my Friend"

Checkout first quarter of TAMU gameplan!
Posted by Tigerdew
The Garden District of Da' Parish
Member since Dec 2003
14181 posts
Posted on 11/12/12 at 9:12 am to
quote:

Keep in mind this is just my opinion. And I am currently working on my masters in sports psychology and intend on coaching at the college level someday.


Why is this relevant?
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
44270 posts
Posted on 11/12/12 at 9:16 am to
quote:

The screen went to the side lsu sent three extra blitzers. And he could have walked to end zone.


And a missed assignment by Mills allowed the big play.....he was supposed to recognize the play and NOT blitz.

Young players make mistakes
Posted by 11thACR
Atlanta, Georgia
Member since Mar 2012
1652 posts
Posted on 11/12/12 at 9:19 am to
Well how about this, I knew this was going to unfold prior to LSU's missed FG. Saban is the best coach in the SEC and likely in college football. Miles and staff are an easy target, but have the talent to match up with Bama. The only unknown on that final drive was if AJ would be flawless or LSU could make a play.
We all now know what happened.
Posted by DustyDinkleman
Here
Member since Feb 2012
18176 posts
Posted on 11/12/12 at 9:20 am to
quote:

First off let me start by saying in no means am I a Saban fan.





Stopped reading at this.
Posted by DEG
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2009
10638 posts
Posted on 11/12/12 at 9:22 am to
quote:

Why is this relevant?


It's not. He thinks recognizing tendencies equates to being a genius. He also thinks school sets you down the path of being a college level coach.
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