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re: Question about hunting rifles...7mm Magnum vs. 30 .06 vs. .270
Posted on 10/26/12 at 1:07 pm to Chicken
Posted on 10/26/12 at 1:07 pm to Chicken
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What I want to know is what is the ideal gun to buy for deer hunting...
The 7mm Mag is overkill for deer unless shots are 300+ with some consistency. The 30-06 is a good choice due to readily available ammo. I've never understood the benefit of the .270 as ballistically and recoil wise its really no different than the 30-06. To me its really a matter of personal preference when choosing between the two.
IMHO, the ideal round for most N. American big game is the 7mm-08. Energy is comparable to the .308/.270. Trajectory is nearly identical and the 7mm-08 is regarded as being more accurate. The shorter cartridge uses a shorter action which lessens the overall weight of the gun, reduces recoil and allows for faster follow up shots. I've used the 7mm-08 on whitetail, mulies, black bear and wild hogs without problems and wouldnt hesitate to use it on moose, caribou or elk.
This post was edited on 10/26/12 at 1:11 pm
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Posted on 10/26/12 at 1:12 pm to wiltznucs
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The shorter cartridge uses a shorter action which lessens the overall weight of the gun, reduces recoil and allows for faster follow up shots
Just please tell me that you realize the advantage of a short action isn't so you can cycle the bolt faster.
Posted on 10/26/12 at 1:17 pm to upgrade
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Just please tell me that you realize the advantage of a short action isn't so you can cycle the bolt faster.
Its among many reasons to like a short action. I listed several others. Please tell me you read the text you chose to quote.
This post was edited on 10/26/12 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 10/26/12 at 1:23 pm to Chicken
so, let's assume I want a .270 or a 30-06, what are the good models to consider?
I know of Winchester, Remington, Weatherby, Browning...I like the classic wood-grain look.
Seems like the choices are endless...how to narrow it down?
I know of Winchester, Remington, Weatherby, Browning...I like the classic wood-grain look.
Seems like the choices are endless...how to narrow it down?
Posted on 10/26/12 at 1:26 pm to Chicken
Weatherby
Browning
Remington
Winchester
Wood grain if you're not gonna beat the snot out of it.
Synthetic stock will take more abuse.
Browning
Remington
Winchester
Wood grain if you're not gonna beat the snot out of it.
Synthetic stock will take more abuse.
Posted on 10/26/12 at 1:26 pm to Chicken
Those are the classics. But today's best guns out of the are probably Tikka and Savage.
To narrow it down you need to put your hands on all of them and ask yourself which one feels the best. IMO
To narrow it down you need to put your hands on all of them and ask yourself which one feels the best. IMO
Posted on 10/26/12 at 1:26 pm to Chicken
Out of those I would get the 30-06 in a Winchester model 70 and never look back
Posted on 10/26/12 at 1:26 pm to Chicken
I also prefer wood to synthetic.
I can only speak for Remington, besause its all I ever owned, but I don't think anyone makes a bad rifle these days. I would prefer Rem, Win, or Ruger first, but thats just my opinion.
I can only speak for Remington, besause its all I ever owned, but I don't think anyone makes a bad rifle these days. I would prefer Rem, Win, or Ruger first, but thats just my opinion.
Posted on 10/26/12 at 1:27 pm to Chicken
chicken..... go and buy you a Remington 700 in composite or in the pretty wood grain that you like..Get it in 06, 270 or 308 and you will be where you need to be... If you just want to spend more money, buy a Weatherby or a Browning,,, your call...Trust me.
i wouldnt steer you wrong..
i wouldnt steer you wrong..
Posted on 10/26/12 at 1:27 pm to Chicken
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how to narrow it down
If you don't already have a preference just go with price. If you don't shoot a lot, it wont matter much imo.
Posted on 10/26/12 at 1:28 pm to KingRanch
quote:hard to find one these days near Houston...Carter's Country is all out, and this place in College Station is out...probably because deer hunting season starts next week here.
30-06 in a Winchester model 70
Posted on 10/26/12 at 1:29 pm to hardhead
quote:I plan to start shooting more...I want to introduce my son to it at a young age...
If you don't shoot a lot, it wont matter much imo.
Posted on 10/26/12 at 1:29 pm to Chicken
quote:
I know of Winchester, Remington, Weatherby, Browning...I like the classic wood-grain look.
Seems like the choices are endless...how to narrow it down?
I'd set a budget and then go to a shop and see which one "feels right". Also consider what you are willing to spend on a scope and mounts. Often these can cost as much and in some cases more than the gun itself.
You cant go wrong among any of the brands listed. The Rem 700 is solid as are the pre-64 style Winchesters. The Browning guns are legendary. I'm a Weatherby guy and love their guns. Some folks really like the Vanguard series guns, but I'm still a fan of the original Mark V action. My first rifle was a Remington and I still use it from time to time.
Posted on 10/26/12 at 1:29 pm to Chicken
You may leave more confused than when you got here
Putting your hands on them will tell you a lot.
Putting your hands on them will tell you a lot.
Posted on 10/26/12 at 1:30 pm to Chicken
.270 here and I've never had any problems with mine. 30.06 is a great caliber gun too though.. From those ranges I'd say the .270 is plenty enough gun to get the job done! Congrats on your first rifle, and glad to see the cluckster on the OB! 
Posted on 10/26/12 at 1:30 pm to Chicken
Run to Katy and go to Bass Pro. They have a ton of model 70's. Or they did about a month ago when I was there.
Posted on 10/26/12 at 1:31 pm to Chicken
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so, let's assume I want a .270 or a 30-06, what are the good models to consider?
I have a Ruger Mark II, and I love everything about it!
Posted on 10/26/12 at 1:33 pm to tkr1407
quote:i would too if i drove a 92 chevy impala.
I have a Ruger Mark II, and I love everything about it!
Posted on 10/26/12 at 1:34 pm to BarDTiger81
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But today's best guns out of the are probably Tikka and Savage
I think Savage has made great strides in recent years. It wasnt that long ago that they were considered the Yugo of firearms. Sure they got you from point A to point B but you didnt want anyone to see you with it.
Of the Tikka/Sako/Beretta guns I prefer the Sako models. I checked out the Tikka T3 and it simply felt cheap to me. I've never fired one though.
Posted on 10/26/12 at 1:35 pm to Chicken
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I'd narrow it down to .270 or .30-06
7mag is overkill IMO for deer inside 200 yards. Some here will tell you otherwise. I don't think the increase in recoil and ammo cost is worth it. If there's a chance you'll ever go elk hunting then the 7mag is probably worth it, but the .30-06 is more than adequate for elk.
.270 and .30-06 are the kings of the deer woods in Louisiana.
This.
The recs for 308 Win and 7-08 also have merit. A deer shot in the chest is not going to know the difference between any of the 4 calibers. My first big game rifle (bought as a teen) was a 270 Win. When my son started hunting, his first deer kill was w/ the same gun, albeit using a reduced recoil handload. The next year I bought him a Savage bolt action in 308 Win. He's killed a bunch of deer w/ it. Comparing similar bullet wts, the 7-08 and 308 will lag behind the 270 and 30-06 by 50-100 fps; that's not really significant at usual hunting ranges.
The only advantage a 7 Mag MIGHT have would be if one routinely hunts deer at MUCH longer than usual ranges.
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