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re: Another simple question: are you more successful at your job than Miles?
Posted on 10/9/12 at 11:01 am to LSUzealot
Posted on 10/9/12 at 11:01 am to LSUzealot
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How about you measure his results vs all of his peers (about 130 of em). Looks like he ranks in the top 3% quartile. Now everyone answer the question.
Thanks for clarifying my question. My initial one is flawed in its logic. Thanks seriously.
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Posted on 10/9/12 at 11:02 am to waiting4saturday
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I am a student, miles record of 80-19 would equal a 3.23 GPA.
I have a 3.6. Which would equal 89-10 record.
WTF???
Posted on 10/9/12 at 11:03 am to CharlesLSU
I'm not saying I do, because I certainly do not. BUT, it is not inconceivable that some people who played the game at a college level or people who coach at a high school level have a much better Xs adn Os knowledge than Leslie.
BUT, it's Leslie's ability to manage relationships adn ability to RELATE his knowledge to the athletes that separates the elite coaches and the coaches who will make millions in the profession.
Otherwise, if it was based PURELY on knowledge, couldn't a couple of nerds or extremely high IQ folks be hired to dedicate themselves to the knowledge of the sport (plays, rules, tendencies, etc) and dominate? The answer is no, because it isn't just merely knowledge about plays , rules and tendencies. It's the communication and ability to relate knowledge, which is more rare than people realize.
BUT, it's Leslie's ability to manage relationships adn ability to RELATE his knowledge to the athletes that separates the elite coaches and the coaches who will make millions in the profession.
Otherwise, if it was based PURELY on knowledge, couldn't a couple of nerds or extremely high IQ folks be hired to dedicate themselves to the knowledge of the sport (plays, rules, tendencies, etc) and dominate? The answer is no, because it isn't just merely knowledge about plays , rules and tendencies. It's the communication and ability to relate knowledge, which is more rare than people realize.
Posted on 10/9/12 at 11:03 am to CharlesLSU
as the ceo of ford motor co. , i consider myself as successful as miles.
i always take 1-2 hours out of my day to read and post on tigerdroppings.com. i have empathy with all the dummies who think they can do a better job. i do appreciate the posters with common sense and evaluate a man on his past experience.
if an employee has been functioning at a 70-90% effeciency level for 7-8 years, i trust his judgement. mainly, b/c i see so many stupid people who don't pay attention to their own faults so that they can demean others who are doing some of the greatest jobs ever.
i always take 1-2 hours out of my day to read and post on tigerdroppings.com. i have empathy with all the dummies who think they can do a better job. i do appreciate the posters with common sense and evaluate a man on his past experience.
if an employee has been functioning at a 70-90% effeciency level for 7-8 years, i trust his judgement. mainly, b/c i see so many stupid people who don't pay attention to their own faults so that they can demean others who are doing some of the greatest jobs ever.
Posted on 10/9/12 at 11:04 am to 1984Tiger
if you're currently at work, and burning up the rant bitching about Les Miles...then the answer is a clear no.
Posted on 10/9/12 at 11:04 am to CharlesLSU
yes. ForeLSU...it's my week off. 
Headed to the links. Y'all have fun.
Headed to the links. Y'all have fun.
This post was edited on 10/9/12 at 11:06 am
Posted on 10/9/12 at 11:05 am to Moustache
quote:Very well said. Interesting perspective IMHO.
BUT, it is not inconceivable that some people who played the game at a college level or people who coach at a high school level have a much better Xs adn Os knowledge than Leslie.
BUT, it's Leslie's ability to manage relationships adn ability to RELATE his knowledge to the athletes that separates the elite coaches and the coaches who will make millions in the profession.
Otherwise, if it was based PURELY on knowledge, couldn't a couple of nerds or extremely high IQ folks be hired to dedicate themselves to the knowledge of the sport (plays, rules, tendencies, etc) and dominate? The answer is no, because it isn't just merely knowledge about plays , rules and tendencies. It's the communication and ability to relate knowledge, which is more rare than people realize.
Posted on 10/9/12 at 11:12 am to 2007lsuno1
CharlesLSU, you have posted two very loaded questions here. Congratulations on shutting ranters up. 
However, do you want to see LSU win another championship? Do you believe we can win another with Miles?
However, do you want to see LSU win another championship? Do you believe we can win another with Miles?Posted on 10/9/12 at 11:19 am to dahulk
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CharlesLSU, you have posted two very loaded questions here. Congratulations on shutting ranters up. However, do you want to see LSU win another championship? Do you believe we can win another with Miles?
Not really wanting people to shut up. Just want some perspective.
I do see LSU winning another actually and I do believe Les can. He has won one and has a couple SEC Championships to show as well.
Look, I have my ideas as to what I would do IF things behind the scenes were going a certain way. BUT, the key is that I don't truly know the in's and out's of the Tigers' world in their house. We are all on the outside and it's easy to see that the car has sputtered a bit, but only the car's mechanic knows where the problem lies.
Posted on 10/9/12 at 11:19 am to cas4t
You are 50% right.
Right. There are several people who can't do at their job what he has, either by potential or choice. He has recruited top talent and has won a shite ton of games, including 2 sec ships and 1 BCSNC.
I am so sick of this argument however. I sat through all those games in the 90s. The end of Dinardo sucked worse than anything I've ever seen. However, just because we are now more successful than we were in the past, does not excuse a coach for making mistakes and being stubborn, period. If you are too stubborn to change what is not working, or attempting to fix problems, you are a problem. Am I saying he is a big enough problem to warrant being fired? Hell no. I love having him here, but sometimes I want to yank his hat down all the way on his head and fasten it there with a staple gun.
The reason why he aggravates me at times is wasted opportunities (see Ole Miss clock fiasco and 1/9). We have definitely been seeing some of the best years of LSU football, but we could have been better even as good as we have been. That is what aggravates me, not accomplishing something that could have been well within our grasp. We will get beat from time to time, and I can handle that. You will not be the best every game for all of eternity. Say had JL come in on 1/9, played well and we still lose, I can handle that. At least he would have tried something.
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Not even close. And no one here is.
Right. There are several people who can't do at their job what he has, either by potential or choice. He has recruited top talent and has won a shite ton of games, including 2 sec ships and 1 BCSNC.
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There are some spoiled, entitled fans on this board who need to go back and watch some games from the 90s.
I am so sick of this argument however. I sat through all those games in the 90s. The end of Dinardo sucked worse than anything I've ever seen. However, just because we are now more successful than we were in the past, does not excuse a coach for making mistakes and being stubborn, period. If you are too stubborn to change what is not working, or attempting to fix problems, you are a problem. Am I saying he is a big enough problem to warrant being fired? Hell no. I love having him here, but sometimes I want to yank his hat down all the way on his head and fasten it there with a staple gun.
The reason why he aggravates me at times is wasted opportunities (see Ole Miss clock fiasco and 1/9). We have definitely been seeing some of the best years of LSU football, but we could have been better even as good as we have been. That is what aggravates me, not accomplishing something that could have been well within our grasp. We will get beat from time to time, and I can handle that. You will not be the best every game for all of eternity. Say had JL come in on 1/9, played well and we still lose, I can handle that. At least he would have tried something.
Posted on 10/9/12 at 11:20 am to dahulk
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CharlesLSU, you have posted two very loaded questions here. Congratulations on shutting ranters up. However, do you want to see LSU win another championship? Do you believe we can win another with Miles?
Is this a joke?
We were in the NC last year. Of course we can win a NC under Miles. You people are amazing me this morning.
Posted on 10/9/12 at 11:22 am to ellis mike the tiger
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If you are too stubborn to change what is not working, or attempting to fix problems, you are a problem.
just share with the rest of us what the problems are from an internal perspective.
Posted on 10/9/12 at 11:23 am to ellis mike the tiger
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We will get beat from time to time, and I can handle that. You will not be the best every game for all of eternity.
.....see, but many here can't. Realistic expectations were thrown out a long time ago.
Posted on 10/9/12 at 11:27 am to ellis mike the tiger
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I am so sick of this argument however. I sat through all those games in the 90s. The end of Dinardo sucked worse than anything I've ever seen. However, just because we are now more successful than we were in the past, does not excuse a coach for making mistakes and being stubborn, period. If you are too stubborn to change what is not working, or attempting to fix problems, you are a problem. Am I saying he is a big enough problem to warrant being fired? Hell no. I love having him here, but sometimes I want to yank his hat down all the way on his head and fasten it there with a staple gun.
The reason why he aggravates me at times is wasted opportunities (see Ole Miss clock fiasco and 1/9). We have definitely been seeing some of the best years of LSU football, but we could have been better even as good as we have been. That is what aggravates me, not accomplishing something that could have been well within our grasp. We will get beat from time to time, and I can handle that. You will not be the best every game for all of eternity. Say had JL come in on 1/9, played well and we still lose, I can handle that. At least he would have tried something
I hear ya. And understand, and feel the same way. My post was directed towards the people who believe Miles' should be fired. Sometimes you have to have a little perspective. We are extremely competitive year in and year out, and Miles' is a HUGE reason for that. Can he be stubborn? Obviously. But I think the real problem relates to the OC position. And I hope and pray that we hire someone asap.
Posted on 10/9/12 at 11:29 am to CharlesLSU
Is this a joke?
No! I'm not joking. You have to see the signs of change. In that championship game, we lost in the ugliest fashion to a team we'd beaten two consecutive times. I think the defensive coaches are catching up to the "Mad Hatter," and that his time for glory my be passing him by.
No! I'm not joking. You have to see the signs of change. In that championship game, we lost in the ugliest fashion to a team we'd beaten two consecutive times. I think the defensive coaches are catching up to the "Mad Hatter," and that his time for glory my be passing him by.
Posted on 10/9/12 at 11:33 am to CharlesLSU
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Realistic expectations were thrown out a long time ago.
Agreed.
Not sure if I understood your first response to me, but here goes with a couple examples from this year. Obviously we are beat up on the line with injuries. Florida's D was aggressive in attacking us in the second half. Why not try some shotgun sets with quick routes? Let Mett get in a rhythm throwing. We ran a lot of 3rd down pass plays out of the I sending out 1 or 2 receivers and no backs. These routes take a long time to develop because of what the routes will need to be to get a first on 3rd and long. Even with the extra protection in there with a TE and RBs picking up blitzes, our pass protection capabilities are not at full strength due to hurt linemen. Give Mett a couple steps head start in the gun, make the defense honor the receivers out of the gun, and go for more short to intermediate routes. Keep the chains moving, keep our D off the field.
What we were doing was not working in the second half. If even at half, you still think with better execution it will work later, by the 4th if there is no improvement, try some changes. Not a complete overhaul, but something a little different. Make the D have to think and adjust.
Posted on 10/9/12 at 11:34 am to CharlesLSU
I am considered a leading expert in my field. Have served as an expert witness against 2 of the 3 major car manufacturers in Federal Court, and won both cases.
17 yrs on the job with no issues building a company from the ground up, now producing 100's of millions annaully in revenue.
So yeah, I think I am at least as competent in my field and Les is in his.
17 yrs on the job with no issues building a company from the ground up, now producing 100's of millions annaully in revenue.
So yeah, I think I am at least as competent in my field and Les is in his.
Posted on 10/9/12 at 11:35 am to CharlesLSU
nope
Posted on 10/9/12 at 11:51 am to ellis mike the tiger
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Let Mett get in a rhythm throwing
....it's hard when WRs are dropping balls.....that is Les' main concern and why he was reverting to running. His confidence in his WRs is severely bruised.
Posted on 10/9/12 at 11:51 am to CharlesLSU
Wow. By your logic no-one can criticize any professional football coach. I guess Dinardo was above criticism in your book.
Btw, I am not conceding that he is better at his job than I am at mine. I make mistakes like he does but I prepare for mistakes and issues that come up and I make adjustments as necessary. I listen to ideas but ultimately take responsibility for the decisions I make.
Btw, I am not conceding that he is better at his job than I am at mine. I make mistakes like he does but I prepare for mistakes and issues that come up and I make adjustments as necessary. I listen to ideas but ultimately take responsibility for the decisions I make.
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