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re: What Caused the Trading Card Market to Bust?

Posted on 8/16/12 at 5:55 pm to
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 8/16/12 at 5:55 pm to
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So do the older card still hold there value? My dad has every card from 61-64 and i think half of 65 with 4 or 5 copies of many of the cards When i was like 10-12 i orginaized them and books and looked up all their values are they close to that still?


Vintage cards are what most people try to collect now. I mean obviously people are still buying new cards seeing as each company makes 50 different sets now. But what's the point of spending $25 on some packs and get some linebackers signature card when you can spend that $25 and have you a Eddie Murphy, Kirby Puckett and Barry Sanders RC cards (that's what I did a few months ago ).

Pre 70's hold their value really well even common cards have value Pre 60's.
Posted by DocBugbear
Arlington, Texas
Member since Mar 2008
7969 posts
Posted on 8/16/12 at 8:56 pm to
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i have a black lotus i keep trying to get rid of but no one wants it. ill prob just throw it away


Sad... At one point those sold quick at $175.

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As a kid I got tired of every set having multiple subsets of chase cards which could only be found in one or two packs per box. The regular cards were worth nothing. Plus I was getting to the point where I got bored with them. I picked up comics for a while, at least I could read those and then later I got into Magic cards which had both the thrill of collecting plus it was a game so the cards had some function other than to look at.


I would have taken so much of your money... And you would have been happy. hahaha
Posted by RedHawk
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
8882 posts
Posted on 8/16/12 at 9:03 pm to
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The worst part is as low as the Beckett value has gotten you would still be very lucky to even get half of what it's "worth".
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I agree. Beckett used to be the bible, but people soon found out that it over inflated the card market. All of my cards that are actually worth a little and worth a fraction of what Beckett says it is worth.
Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
15825 posts
Posted on 8/16/12 at 9:08 pm to
Elleshoe, who is that in your avatar?
Posted by lsufanva
sandston virginia
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 8/16/12 at 9:46 pm to
The older cards hold value better but still have lost a ton of value. The Jordan cards('86 Fleer and '85 Star) are the best examples. He is still the greatest athlete, from a value standpoint, that the industry has ever seen and yet his 2 most prized cards(imo) have dropped half of their value. They didn't print more of the cards nor did he do anything to cause his value to drop. The bullshite behind the scenes in the industry devalued them.
Posted by DocBugbear
Arlington, Texas
Member since Mar 2008
7969 posts
Posted on 8/16/12 at 10:03 pm to
Be careful... there's a lot of counterfeits of those floating around.
Posted by flvelo12
Palm Harbor, Florida
Member since Jan 2012
3346 posts
Posted on 8/17/12 at 12:06 am to
CBS Sunday Morning Story on Trading Card Market

Interesting story that echoes much of the sentiment on this topic.

Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
34302 posts
Posted on 8/17/12 at 12:38 am to
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What's yalls best cards?


Jordan RC
Favre 2nd year card
Montana RC
Rice RC
Kobe Bryant Chrome RC PSA 10
Kobe Bryant Chrome Refractor
89 Score set



It pisses me off that unopened packs of 89 Score were going for $200 and I pick up the whole set for $60. I remember finding 8 89 Score Barry Sanders RC's in a thrift shop bin! Anyways, I remember selling Kobe's Chrome RC PSA 10 for $1800 a pop. Made a killing back then. I had a good hook up on boxes of chrome from a guy at wal mart who would steal them off the truck. All I had to do was weigh the packs and I'd find which ones had the refractors in them. I turned around and sold the packs for a heafty profit because everyone was sold out of them.

This post was edited on 8/17/12 at 12:44 am
Posted by primemover225
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
6538 posts
Posted on 8/17/12 at 1:00 am to
eBay
Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
15825 posts
Posted on 8/17/12 at 1:20 am to
Why don't they just go back to the rules they use to have before they oversaturated the market to gain interest again?
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
34302 posts
Posted on 8/17/12 at 1:22 am to
Because that would make sense. Comics need to do that as well. Everybody who said over saturation is correct. The companies need to take a basic economics class and learn about supply and demand.
Posted by Sheep
Neither here nor there
Member since Jun 2007
19566 posts
Posted on 8/17/12 at 8:29 am to
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What Caused the Trading Card Market to Bust?


Well, behavior like this doesn't help, either.

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I had a good hook up on boxes of chrome from a guy at wal mart who would steal them off the truck. All I had to do was weigh the packs and I'd find which ones had the refractors in them. I turned around and sold the packs for a heafty profit because everyone was sold out of them.


Tell us about how you made out on Hot Wheels and Tickle Me Elmo dolls while you're at it.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
34828 posts
Posted on 8/17/12 at 8:48 am to
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The older cards hold value better but still have lost a ton of value. The Jordan cards('86 Fleer and '85 Star) are the best examples. He is still the greatest athlete, from a value standpoint, that the industry has ever seen and yet his 2 most prized cards(imo) have dropped half of their value. They didn't print more of the cards nor did he do anything to cause his value to drop. The bullshite behind the scenes in the industry devalued them


Thats still the 80's though. 80's and 90's took the biggest hit no matter who the player is. Pre 80's didn't do bad. You never saw the Mantle rookie drop or Roger Staubach. If you're collecting, Pre 80's should be what you're trying to collect.
Posted by Sheep
Neither here nor there
Member since Jun 2007
19566 posts
Posted on 8/17/12 at 9:23 am to
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Pre 1974 should be what you're trying to collect.


1974 was the first year that Topps went to a single series, and started cranking the printing presses.

I'm working on my 70's sets right now, and 74s and 75s, while not abundant, are relatively easy to find.

The last two series (the "high numbers") of 70-71-72-73 are going to be a MANY year project, unless I come into a shite pile of money.
Posted by BayouBengal
Member since Nov 2003
28275 posts
Posted on 8/17/12 at 9:33 am to
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Sad... At one point those sold quick at $175.


But that's about what it was worth in the mid 90's. I traded off a card that's now worth about $300 when it was valued at about $30. The cards I traded for are now only about $50 total. But it was a fair trade in 1995.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30971 posts
Posted on 8/17/12 at 11:02 am to
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It pisses me off that unopened packs of 89 Score were going for $200


No.

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Anyways, I remember selling Kobe's Chrome RC PSA 10 for $1800 a pop. Made a killing back then. I had a good hook up on boxes of chrome from a guy at wal mart who would steal them off the truck. All I had to do was weigh the packs and I'd find which ones had the refractors in them. I turned around and sold the packs for a heafty profit because everyone was sold out of them.


CSB.
Posted by jan009
Member since Aug 2012
1 post
Posted on 8/17/12 at 11:02 am to
I'm looking to buy a black lotus. If you send me some pictures/scans to my email, jan009@ucsd.edu, I'll take a look at it. What's the history of the card?

Please respond in my email as I don't frequent this forum.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112793 posts
Posted on 8/17/12 at 11:06 am to
I've still got over 1,000 cards from the 50s and 60s. But the real value is when they hit the 100 year mark. That will be during my grandson's adult life and he's going to get them all when I pass.
Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
15825 posts
Posted on 8/17/12 at 4:52 pm to
I use to love going to Town Crier or the card stores at malls. If I got good grades on tests, I would be able to go each week and get a pack. Soon, I ran out of people to trade cards with.
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
52982 posts
Posted on 8/17/12 at 5:00 pm to
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I'm looking to buy a black lotus. If you send me some pictures/scans to my email, jan009@ucsd.edu, I'll take a look at it. What's the history of the card?



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