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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS
Posted on 10/17/12 at 8:45 am to 19
Posted on 10/17/12 at 8:45 am to 19
Sorry, but the theory is complete bullshite. Tywin was Hand of the King for another 8 years after Tyrion was born. If Tywin left right before or soon after Tyrion was born, then you may have a case. But no, the theory is complete bullshite and insulting from things directly told to us and hinted. No way Tyrion is Aerys' son. There are too many of those floating around right now anyway.
Posted on 10/17/12 at 8:46 am to OMLandshark
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Sorry, but the theory is complete bull shite. Tywin was Hand of the King for another 8 years after Tyrion was born. If Tywin left right before or soon after Tyrion was born, then you may have a case. But no, the theory is complete bull shite and insulting from things directly told to us and hinted. No way Tyrion is Aerys' son. There are too many of those floating around right now anyway.
You made my exact post
Posted on 10/17/12 at 9:13 am to OMLandshark
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No way Tyrion is Aerys' son. There are too many of those floating around right now anyway.
Agree 100% with you. I would say this red herring (from ADWD right?) is another example of Martin just randomly throwing shite into the story that's possibly influenced by Westeros.org and other online sites (as this idea had been bandied about before ADWD was published*).
After SOS, I find it hard to believe anyone could think Tyrion was anything but Tywin's son (their last exchange so perfectly reflecting each other). However, Martin has added in that Tyrion had dragon dreams (this was from ADWD, right?) and the Joanna tidbit. Many had already thought Tyrion would be one of the 3 heads of the dragon (likely with Jon and Dany) and since Jon/Dany are more than likely Targaryen descendants, so too must Tyrion be. Not saying I agree with it (don't necessarily believe the three heads must be Targaryens OR that Tyrion will be one of the three heads), but that's what leads to the speculation.
Tyrion not being Tywin's son would undercut many of the events from the first three books. Also it would indicate that Westeros had a bigger bastard problem than North Baton Rouge.
This post was edited on 10/17/12 at 9:14 am
Posted on 10/17/12 at 5:40 pm to OMLandshark
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Tywin was Hand of the King for another 8 years after Tyrion was born. If Tywin left right before or soon after Tyrion was born, then you may have a case. But no, the theory is complete bullshite and insulting from things directly told to us and hinted.
Just where in the world are you getting this 8 year figure? The timeline isn't addressed in the books and Martin has refused to give any further details when asked directly. Just RAFO.
Its not all coming from ADWD either. I picked up the hints in my first read of AGOT. Dragon dreams, silver hair when all Lannisters have golden hair, Tywin's abrupt resignation and later betrayal. Aerys' fear of Tywin says a lot.
And you do remember Tywin's dying words? "You're no son of mine."
Posted on 10/19/12 at 1:03 am to OMLandshark
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Sorry, but the theory is complete bullshite. Tywin was Hand of the King for another 8 years after Tyrion was born. If Tywin left right before or soon after Tyrion was born, then you may have a case. But no, the theory is complete bullshite and insulting from things directly told to us and hinted. No way Tyrion is Aerys' son. There are too many of those floating around right now anyway.
This theory is insulting? Stupid, sure. Retarded? hmmm maybe. Crackpot? Absolutley. But Holy shite. Insulting.
That speaks volumes. I hate to break it to you, man, but I hear Martin's gonna kill off Misery in "Winds".
That dirty bird.
No, jk. I didn't mean to cause you so much butthurt. He's a Lannister! He's a Lannister!
ETA: Whoops, I should say:
Tyrion is Tywin's son!!
This post was edited on 10/19/12 at 1:07 am
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