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Posted on 8/23/12 at 7:51 pm to
Posted by Tiger in NY
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Posted on 8/23/12 at 7:51 pm to
I think Ramsey wrote it, but that no battle has even happened yet. All hell broke loose at Winterfell between Manderly and Frey, and Ramsey is pulling out all the stops to maintain control. What his goal is with the letter, I am still guessing, but I think Stannis is at the walls of Winterfell and the Boltons have lost all control within it.

My guess is that he figured out the Jon had sent people into Winterfell to take "Arya" back, and Ramsey now wants to crush him. Ramsey is too impulsive. He cannot keep his eyes on the prize and just wants the instant gratification of crushing his enemies.
This post was edited on 8/23/12 at 8:00 pm
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 8/23/12 at 8:20 pm to
quote:

I think Ramsey wrote it, but that no battle has even happened yet. All hell broke loose at Winterfell between Manderly and Frey, and Ramsey is pulling out all the stops to maintain control. What his goal is with the letter, I am still guessing, but I think Stannis is at the walls of Winterfell and the Boltons have lost all control within it.

My guess is that he figured out the Jon had sent people into Winterfell to take "Arya" back, and Ramsey now wants to crush him. Ramsey is too impulsive. He cannot keep his eyes on the prize and just wants the instant gratification of crushing his enemies.



I agree. Ramsey was furious and sent the letter. He hasn't captured Mance or killed stannis, he tortured one of the spearwives until she talked and that is where he got his information. His grasp on Winterfell is fading and he his hungry for Jon's blood, the man who stole his Reek.
Posted by ZenFNmaster
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Posted on 8/23/12 at 9:16 pm to
His dragon egg.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 8/23/12 at 10:34 pm to
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Well where is the link at hooker?


Right click and open in a new tab/window slut.
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 8/23/12 at 10:47 pm to
My new background
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 8/23/12 at 10:55 pm to
does anyone have the link to the site that made/sold the House flags/banners? I want a Stark banner.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 8/23/12 at 11:16 pm to
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Right click and open in a new tab/window slut.




Don't you sass me
Posted by TexasTigah
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Posted on 8/23/12 at 11:59 pm to
Damn. I've got alot of catching up to do in this thread.
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 8/24/12 at 12:01 am to
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Damn. I've got alot of catching up to do in this thread.


Best thread in M/TV history
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 8/24/12 at 7:00 am to
:kige:
Posted by Mr. Wayne
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Posted on 8/24/12 at 9:26 am to
Unfortunately I don't have a theory for it, but I am really stuck on the Littlefinger/Sansa POV. I believe Littlefinger's ultimate goal is the Iron Throne. Or at least I used to until I saw the pace in which he was moving. He has control over the Eyrie, after Sansa's wedding, but nothing else. I have always assumed he wanted Riverrun being power hungry and starting off as a nobody there. But from there where does he go? As smart as he has been throughout the Song, it just seems like he is out of ideas. Anybody care to enlighten me?
Posted by shinerfan
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Posted on 8/24/12 at 9:42 am to
And what's rolled up in those damn tapestries?

Dark Sister is all I can come up with. Pretty thin though, it wouldn't really help Sansa or Harry the Heir's various claims. It would just be a badass sword.
This post was edited on 8/24/12 at 9:43 am
Posted by SLafourche07
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Posted on 8/24/12 at 9:45 am to
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He has control over the Eyrie, after Sansa's wedding, but nothing else.



Wouldn't he think he'd have control over the North as well, being that all the other Stark children are thought to be dead to the general public?


The North and The Vale.

That's a lot of land to be pulling the strings for.
Posted by Mr. Wayne
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Posted on 8/24/12 at 10:06 am to
Yeah I was overlooking the Vale. I guess he could be waiting to attack the North until the end of Stannis and the Boltons war is over. Then he would claim the lands with his fresh army as well as any remaining Stark supporters with Sansa. But if that is his plan, it will be screwed once Rickon gets back.
Posted by Tiger in NY
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Posted on 8/24/12 at 10:31 am to
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He has control over the Eyrie, after Sansa's wedding, but nothing else.


Ummm, once he marries Sansa, he'll have control of Winterfell and the North too. That is more than half the land in all of Westeros.

This is Littlefinger's thought process, and not what I think will actually happen. As far as he knows, he has the only living Stark.
This post was edited on 8/24/12 at 10:33 am
Posted by Tiger in NY
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Posted on 8/24/12 at 10:34 am to
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But if that is his plan, it will be screwed once Rickon gets back.


Yes, yes it will be.
Posted by ornagestorm
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Posted on 8/24/12 at 10:35 am to
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I agree. Ramsey was furious and sent the letter. He hasn't captured Mance or killed stannis, he tortured one of the spearwives until she talked and that is where he got his information. His grasp on Winterfell is fading and he his hungry for Jon's blood, the man who stole his Reek.


I also agree that he has not fought Stannis yet, he asks for Reek back, if he had fought Stannis, he would know that Theon/Reek was with him not at the Wall.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 8/24/12 at 10:44 am to
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does anyone have the link to the site that made/sold the House flags/banners? I want a Stark banner.


Etsy.com has a lot of stuff like that. That may have been it.
Posted by LSUSaintsHornets
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Posted on 8/24/12 at 10:51 am to
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I believe Littlefinger's ultimate goal is the Iron Throne

I don't think so. I think Littlefinger knows that without the destruction of every great house they will not let him sit on the iron throne. I think he ultimately wants enough power to be taken seriously among the great houses of westeros.
This post was edited on 8/24/12 at 10:52 am
Posted by ornagestorm
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Posted on 8/24/12 at 10:53 am to
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I don't think so. I think Littlefinger knows that without the destruction of every great house they will not let him sit on the iron throne. I think he ultimately wants enough power to be taken seriously among the great houses of westeros.


Also, being on the throne is way to visible for Littlefinger, he wants to rule from the shadows not from the front.
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