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re: OFFICIAL - The Dark Knight Rises Discussion Thread - *SPOILERS*

Posted on 8/16/12 at 12:42 am to
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 8/16/12 at 12:42 am to
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I only chimed in because this movie was so bad it made me angry that I wasted my time and money on it and I wanted to vent. I had no desire to get into a pissing match with a nerd-like Internet tough guy.



Seriously, aside from a plothole here and there (and none of them are particularly horrible), what was so bad about it? You haven't done a good job explaining it. You were expecting TDK, and it was something very much different.
Posted by DrVinnyBoombatz
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Posted on 8/16/12 at 12:57 am to
You have yet to make a good counter-argument about why this movie sucks.

If you thought the acting sucks, then say it. If you thought the script sucks, then say it. Just saying that there were plot-holes doesn't explain why you think it sucks. There were more plot-holes in TDK.
Posted by thekid
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Member since May 2006
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Posted on 8/16/12 at 6:59 am to
Counter-arguments
-it was borIng and far too long
-batman was in a three hour movie for about 15 minutes
-batman's voice was ridiculous and unnecessary
-every single cop in a huge city sent into underground tunnels. every one?!?
-there were too many "speeches" made not enough dialogue...
I could go on...

I did like 2 things...
-the opening scene
-how they handled Catwomen...

BTW-I am not the kind of guy who goes around bashing popular movies and making fun of their fans. I only name-called after being called a bitch...
I am only trying to come to grips with how so many people can say they liked a movie that I found appallingly bad. My theory is that people say they liked it because they are "supposed" to... I stand by it...
Posted by trillhog
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Posted on 8/16/12 at 8:20 am to
good movie would not watch again not really much to it.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59178 posts
Posted on 8/16/12 at 8:34 am to
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comic book nerds get very defensive when someone disagrees with them


you are not just disagree with them. You are accusing them of being mindless sheep that only like the move because others said it was good. That's an incredibly insulting comment to make.

If you didn't like it, cool. But there is no need to put down the people that did.

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My theory is that people say they liked it because they are "supposed" to... I stand by it



Congrats on being so much better than everyone else.




This post was edited on 8/16/12 at 8:36 am
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
109919 posts
Posted on 8/16/12 at 8:35 am to
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-it was borIng and far too long



Completely subjective

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-batman was in a three hour movie for about 15 minutes



So? He wasn't needed any longer. It was a story more about Bruce Wayne than Batman. Batman in this film is merely a symbol compared to the previous two. The symbol needed to be absent for much of the film to give us its impact.

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-batman's voice was ridiculous and unnecessary


This happened in BB and TDK. Don't act like you didn't know what you were getting into with this.

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-every single cop in a huge city sent into underground tunnels. every one?!?


Plot hole, but yeah I'll agree its a little ridiculous to set up the second act.

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-there were too many "speeches" made not enough dialogue...



No more than TDK really.

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I am only trying to come to grips with how so many people can say they liked a movie that I found appallingly bad. My theory is that people say they liked it because they are "supposed" to... I stand by it...



I found Little Miss Sunshine to be a shitty movie, but no one agrees with me and I don't go and defecate all over their lawn because they don't agree with me. Instead of telling people they're dumb and "I can't believe all you mindless sheep liked this", how about you talk about it, not just state your opinion as fact.

You're a dickhead by the way.
This post was edited on 8/16/12 at 8:38 am
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 8/16/12 at 8:36 am to
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You have yet to make a good counter-argument about why this movie sucks.


How about it's his opinion? That's a good counter-argument, don't you think? I loved this movie and, while it is flawed, I still found it to be the most enjoyable of the three (not the best, but the most enjoyable). Not everyone is going to have the same opinion as me. If they didn't like the movie, oh well. But just because they didn't like it does not invalidate their opinion, no matter the reasons for not liking it.

Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
109919 posts
Posted on 8/16/12 at 8:38 am to
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How about it's his opinion? That's a good counter-argument, don't you think? I loved this movie and, while it is flawed, I still found it to be the most enjoyable of the three (not the best, but the most enjoyable). Not everyone is going to have the same opinion as me. If they didn't like the movie, oh well. But just because they didn't like it does not invalidate their opinion, no matter the reasons for not liking it.



He's being a fricking dickhead about it and saying people liked it just because they are "supposed" to like it. He doesn't deserve to be treated with much respect.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59178 posts
Posted on 8/16/12 at 8:42 am to
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How about it's his opinion? That's a good counter-argument, don't you think?


That's fine, until he starts telling everyone that like the movie they only like it because they were told to or wanted it to be good going in.

I was really looking forward to Prometheus and was disappointed. I was really looking forward to TDKR and like it and I've never read a Batman comic.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 8/16/12 at 8:43 am to
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He's being a fricking dickhead about it and saying people liked it just because they are "supposed" to like it. He doesn't deserve to be treated with much respect.



Oh. Well I haven't read the previous conversations in relation to him. But if he's doing that then he is a douchebag.

Posted by thekid
Anna, Tx
Member since May 2006
3942 posts
Posted on 8/16/12 at 9:08 am to
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He's being a fricking dickhead about it and saying people liked it just because they are "supposed" to like it. He doesn't deserve to be treated with much respect.


Yea, and calling me a dickhead, douchebag and bitch because I put forth a theory as to why people say they like a movie that was bad, deserves a lot of respect.
Look, I get it, you are emotionally invested and probably love the batman franchise.
You and the others on this thread that over-reacted to my opinion lets me know that deep down you know I am right.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 8/16/12 at 9:59 am to
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ITS still REAL to ME Dammit!


LINK
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
109919 posts
Posted on 8/16/12 at 10:13 am to
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Yea, and calling me a dickhead, douchebag and bitch because I put forth a theory as to why people say they like a movie that was bad, deserves a lot of respect.



You called anyone who liked it sheep, so I think calling you a dickhead is not only appropriate, but accurate.

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Look, I get it, you are emotionally invested and probably love the batman franchise.



Yeah, but just because I am emotionally invested in the franchise doesn't mean I'm going to automatically like it. If anything that makes me much more picky about its installments. I am for instance not a fan of Burton's Batman series at all. Never have been even in my youth since I always saw the animated series as superior to it. Trust me, I'm a nitpicky film-goer, but most of this shite is just ridiculous that people are bitching about. Most the stuff you bitch about in TDKR can also be used in TDK itself.

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You and the others on this thread that over-reacted to my opinion lets me know that deep down you know I am right.



Your cocky reaction to my "over-reaction" assures me that you're a dickhead. Eat shite.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59178 posts
Posted on 8/16/12 at 10:23 am to
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Yea, and calling me a dickhead, douchebag and bitch because I put forth a theory as to why people say they like a movie that was bad, deserves a lot of respect.


your "theory" is an insult and your assertion that your opinion of the movie is fact is extremely condecending. Those 2 actions (insulting people while acting moral superior) will generally result in you being called names, not undeservingly so by the way.

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You and the others on this thread that over-reacted to my opinion lets me know that deep down you know I am right


What people are reacting to is you insulting them. Sadly your smug arrogance blinds you.

But again congrats on being so much better than everyone else.
This post was edited on 8/16/12 at 10:38 am
Posted by White Shadeaux
In the nicest parts of hell
Member since Jan 2006
24114 posts
Posted on 8/16/12 at 10:30 am to
You guys e-fighting on a messageboard is probably more entertaining then the movie itself.

Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Member since Feb 2007
103291 posts
Posted on 8/16/12 at 10:31 am to
batman is serious bidness shadow. you don't badmouth the great Nolan and get away with it with your butt intact around here.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
109919 posts
Posted on 8/16/12 at 10:32 am to
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Tiger Ryno



God damnit, you suck as poster.
Posted by Lacour
Member since Nov 2009
32949 posts
Posted on 8/16/12 at 10:32 am to
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thekid


You mouthing in here about Nolan?

Posted by TigerNutts
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2011
2613 posts
Posted on 8/16/12 at 10:33 am to
You know what I like? Talking a lot about things that I enjoy. Why I enjoyed them, specifically good parts, things that could have been different, etc.

If I don't like something, I really don't want to talk about it much. If I did, it's because I am trying to force my opinion on others and I'm a self serving prick.

If there's a Honey Boo Boo thread, I'm not even going in there. I don't find it funny. You're like some guy in preppy clothes that rolls his sleeves up and walks into a bar full of bikers to pick a fight. Why go in there in the first place?
Posted by Lacour
Member since Nov 2009
32949 posts
Posted on 8/16/12 at 10:37 am to
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Honey Boo Boo


WHat the hell is this?
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