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re: Measuring trees for Louisiana/National big tree registry

Posted on 6/15/12 at 2:19 pm to
Posted by The Last Coco
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Posted on 6/15/12 at 2:19 pm to
Alright, I appreciate the opinion. LFA contacted me again and will send someone out from LSU Agcenter Extension in the area to measure once they get a ruling from nationals. I will keep y'all updated.

ETA Pics

East Side

North Side

West Side

South Side
This post was edited on 6/15/12 at 2:34 pm
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 6/15/12 at 2:44 pm to
I see at least three trees.
Posted by The Last Coco
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Posted on 6/15/12 at 2:50 pm to
Fair enough. It has four main trunks with individual circumferences of 8', 8.4', 5.5', and 7.1'.

Posted by The Last Coco
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Posted on 6/15/12 at 2:52 pm to
I've seen 2 trees grow together like that, but never 4. Is that not as rare as I think? I mean I grew up hunting and have been in the woods my whole life but havent ever seen anything like that.
Posted by Langston
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Posted on 6/15/12 at 2:59 pm to
quote:

Very likely. I was going to mention that but didnt. we cut young crape myrtles to make them multi trunks which sell better. Looks very similar.


I still vote it was cut off/broke very young. Hell Im a certified arborist and raised in a nursery but Im still just guessing. Let us know what the pros say.
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 6/15/12 at 3:04 pm to
quote:

Hell Im a certified arborist
I have a tree-fall-on-house case I may need help with.
Posted by Langston
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Posted on 6/15/12 at 3:05 pm to


Just let me know what you need me to say
This post was edited on 6/15/12 at 3:08 pm
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 6/15/12 at 3:12 pm to
A squirrel burried 4 pecans right next to each other. Hell, someone may have done that on purprose. I could not find a single river birch, so I bought a bucket of 3 and killed the two weaker ones.
Posted by Langston
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Posted on 6/15/12 at 4:51 pm to
Yea singles dont normally sell as well as multiples in them either. People like the multiples like crape myrtles. That's why we cut the singles off low and get them to come back multiples so people won't know the difference YSWIDT.

ETA: I think your right though based off that 3rd pic
This post was edited on 6/15/12 at 5:06 pm
Posted by longtimealter
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Posted on 6/15/12 at 4:55 pm to
Dr. Charles Allen is the person is vernon parish that does all the registry work. He is a botanist at ft. polk and has a natural vegetation/outdoor bed and breakfast in Cravens. He does a lot of the work and he gets his summer temp staff to be on the look out when in the field.
Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 6/15/12 at 5:50 pm to
I have seen trees grow directly out of each other. In St. Gabriel there are a few 65-75" cypress trees on a piece of property that LSU owns. They were all left there because of some kind of defect. One of them has an 18" Green Ash growing out of a knot at the base.

I have also seen two different types of trees basically each sharing one side of a trunk. One was actually growing on the inside and the other right around it.

Aging trees is called dendrochronology. I have seen trees where the stump is 500 years old and the trunk is only 30-40. Trees gonna do tree stuff.
Posted by Brinner
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Posted on 6/16/12 at 3:23 pm to
Those trees aren't even that big.
Posted by The Last Coco
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Posted on 6/16/12 at 7:12 pm to
The circumference around the base is 21.5'. The two bigger forks each have circumferences over 8' and diameters over 2.5'

The pictures don't have a good size reference in them, but that tree is huge.
Posted by Jibbajabba
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Posted on 6/16/12 at 10:03 pm to
Yeah, thats three trees.
Posted by dandug001
Shreveport
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Posted on 6/17/12 at 1:26 am to
I did some work for International Paper and they had some old photos like these. Amazing to see, but kinda sad at the same time. Believe me, I'm no tree hugger, but seeing a tree that old cut down is sad. I do realize that back in those days, many things couldn't stop the growing process of nation

Posted by jeffsdad
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Posted on 6/17/12 at 6:28 am to
For those that believe their big tree hadn't been seen before...I've worked with taxo botanists..they have been probably to every acre in the state the last 40 years. In fact the world's most prolific plant collector collected mainly in Louisiana for 30 years. Then you have dozens of others that have collected tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands more specimens. Just making a point that their are multiple occupations that look at trees/plants and make note of any "noteworthy" trees.
Posted by Langston
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Posted on 6/17/12 at 1:20 pm to
That doesn't even make any sense. So your saying they been on everyones private property and seen their trees because you damn sure can't see even close to most in nice timber stands from the edge.
Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 6/17/12 at 2:32 pm to
I have been on many pieces of property around this state and Mississippi. Some of them haven't been touched in 30-50 years. Like Langston said, there is no way that they have been to every piece of property with big trees in the state. They probably use satellite imagery and thermal imagery now, but it can be a whole different world on there ground. I saw some huge cypress trees once and tried to find them on the computer. No beans, they had phenomenal dbh, but their crown cover wasn't shite. I was able to find a few of them on Bing maps, but not most. There are still a few untouched stands of trees around the state. I would say that number is under 5, but when you see them, you'll shite bricks
This post was edited on 6/17/12 at 2:34 pm
Posted by Langston
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Posted on 6/17/12 at 2:42 pm to
It's a shame it's not more than that. Just a damn shame.
Posted by jeffsdad
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Posted on 6/17/12 at 4:16 pm to
Yep, pretty sure. Its only been in the last 20 years that every parcel of land has been posted. And botanists know which lands to look on. If you look at the taxo-visited sites by parish at the big herbariums (the ones that are finished) you see the suckers covered with hundreds, sometimes thousands of sites. But,obviously there may be a very very few trees that are old enough to be near records and haven't been seen by a forester, taxo botanist, botanist, amateur reporters, etc., but I doubt it.
I remember being with a taxo professor that was doing a friend of a friend a favor and checked out an oak tree (dont remember the species)whilein the area. After looking at it, he told the owner it was "very impressive" etc, but it wasnt nearly a record. the owner asked how much bigger it had to get....the professor said - "about twice that size".
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