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re: Disastrous night for the tank
Posted on 4/20/12 at 10:18 am to dcrews
Posted on 4/20/12 at 10:18 am to dcrews
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dcrews
thanks, I know you're not doing it to support the tank or anything but thank god you understand logic. I'm not very good at explaining these concepts to simpletons.. but then again that's why I'm not a teacher.
My point is purely this... a 5% greater chance of getting the best pick in the draft has a higher ROI than winning 1 extra game in an 70 game season.
ETA: :nb4moneytalk:
This post was edited on 4/20/12 at 10:19 am
Posted on 4/20/12 at 10:23 am to Jumbeauxlaya
I totally understand what you are saying. I just disagree with it 100%. First off, I can't cheer for my team to lose; I want them to do the best they can. Losing on purpose is one of the worst things you can do in sports. With that being said, our win last night doesn't automatically drop us from 3 to 5. What if CLE or SAC win again and we lose out? Too many variables to get upset over 1 win here. Furthermore, you are not cheering for us to lose to get a better pick (which would have more weight). You are cheering for us to lose to have a CHANCE at a better pick. Again, so many variables. Lastly, not a single team in the lottery have a majority chance at winning. shite, the best odds in the draft currently has CHA at a 75% chance of NOT getting 1st pick. If you flip it to look at it that way, you realize how insignificant 4% will be. Sure I would rather a 85% chance of not getting #1 than a 90% chance...but overall, we are at a disadvantage no matter what.
Like I said, I understand what you are saying, I just don't agree with it.
Like I said, I understand what you are saying, I just don't agree with it.
Posted on 4/20/12 at 10:23 am to Jumbeauxlaya
quote:
My point is purely this... a 5% greater chance of getting the best pick in the draft has a higher ROI than winning 1 extra game in an 70 game season.
Exactly. The math is what it is, and cant' be argued. What we really should be debating is whether or not we should tank a game or two for those extra percentage points (and I think we are getting on track with that).
Posted on 4/20/12 at 10:37 am to Jumbeauxlaya
quote:
I'm not very good at explaining these concepts to simpletons.. but then again that's why I'm not a teacher.
See, these comments are unnecessary. As I said, I think people understand the numbers and how they work. But those numbers do not comprise the entire basis of their "fandom", if you will, when it comes to any given game being played on the court.
quote:
My point is purely this... a 5% greater chance of getting the best pick in the draft has a higher ROI than winning 1 extra game in an 70 game season.
If we're basing being a fan on ROI, we should all seek treatment.
ETA: And, btw, Spock, reasonable, logical and mature people may actually choose to pull for their team to win with full knowledge of the consequences. Their values may simply be different. There are NO GUARANTEES when it comes to the lottery.
This post was edited on 4/20/12 at 10:41 am
Posted on 4/20/12 at 11:12 am to Jumbeauxlaya
quote:
My point is purely this... a 5% greater chance of getting the best pick in the draft has a higher ROI than winning 1 extra game in an 70 game season.
This is the money point. If everybody could sign and acknowledge that they grasp this I'd STFU. The problem is quailman vehemently disagrees and says "that 5% probably won't matter" and I lose my temper.
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