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The Knight of The Laughing Tree - Massive Song of Ice and Fire Spoilers!!!!!

Posted on 3/7/12 at 11:16 am
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 3/7/12 at 11:16 am
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"There was one knight," said Meera, "in the year of the false spring. The Knight of the Laughing Tree, they called him. He might have been a crannogman, that one."

"Or not, " Jojen's face was dappled with green snadows. "prince Bran has heard that tale a hundred times, I'm sure."



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'That's my father's man you're kicking,' howled the she-wolf."

"A wolf on four legs, or two?"

"Two," said Meera. "The she-wolf laid into the squires with a tourney sword, scattering them all. The crannogman was bruised and bloodied, so she took him back to her lair to clean his cuts and bind them up with linen. There he met her pack brothers: the wild wolf who led them, the quiet wolf beside him, and the pup who was youngest of the four.

"That evening there was to be a feast in Harrenhal, to mark the opening of the tourney, and the she-wolf insisted that the lad attend. He was of high birth, with as much a right to a place on the bench as any other man.


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"Amidst all this merriment, the little crannogman spied the three squires who'd attacked him. One served a pitchfork knight, one a porcupine, while the last attended a knight with two towers on his surcoat, a sigil all crannogmen know well."

The Freys," said Bran. "The Freys of the Crossing."

"Then, as now," she agreed. "The wolf maid saw them too, and pointed them out to her brothers. 'I could find you a horse, and some armor that might fit,' the pup offered. The little crannogman thanked him, but gave no answer. His heart was torn. Crannogmen are smaller than must, but just as proud. The lad was no knight, no more than any of his people. We sit a boat more offtent then a horse, and our hands are made for oars, not lances. Much as he wished to have his vengeance, he freared he would only make a fool of himself and shame his people. The quiet wolf had offered the little crannogman a place in his tent that night, but before he slept he knelt on the lakeshore, looking across the water to where the Isle of Faces would be. and said a prayer to the old gods of north and Neck..."

"You never heard this tale from your father?" asked Jojen.



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"No one knew," said Meera, "but the mystery knight was short of stature, and clad in ill-fitting armor made up of bits and pieces. The device upon his shield was a heart tree of the old gods, a white weirwood with a laughing red face."


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the Knight of the Laughing Tree spoke in a booming voice through his helm, saying, 'Teach your squires honor, that shall be ransom enough.' Once the defeated knights chastised their squires sharply, their horses and armour were returned. And so the little crannogman's prayer was answered...by the green men, or the old gods, or the children of the forest, who can say?"


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The Knight of the Laughing Tree had vanished. The king was wroth, and even sent his son the dragon prince to seek the man, but all they ever found was his painted shield, hanging abandoned in a tree. It was the dragon prince who won that tourney in the end."


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name the wolf maid the queen of love and beauty."

"She was," Said Meera, "but that's a sadder story."

"Are you certain you never heard this tale before Bran?" asked Jojen. "Your lord father never told it to you?"

Bran shook his head.


So is the board consensus that the KotLT was Howland Reed or does anyone think Lyanna is a possibility?

General Discussion of the importance of Howland Reed is also welcome here.
This post was edited on 3/7/12 at 11:23 am
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 3/7/12 at 11:22 am to
Im almost certain it was howland
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 3/7/12 at 11:23 am to
And he is the single most important character to jobs story arch
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 3/7/12 at 11:25 am to
I'm inclined to agree but, Lyanna fits every part of the story, fits the Reed's expecting Bran to know the story, fits the larger history with Rhaegar suddenly presenting her with the Crown of Love and Beauty apparently out of nowhere (and fits them probably running off together later).
She is:
small in stature
has no armour of her own
needs to diguise her voice and her face
is an expert rider, said to be more than half horse (we are told that jousting is 90% horsemanship or something similar, and saw Loras beat Gregor through horsemanship)
already fought the three squires and beat them once
fights regularly with her brothers, against her fathers wishes
has affiliation to weirwoods
is given an unexpected reward by the prince who went looking for the KotLT and claimed not to find him

Posted by CE Tiger
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Posted on 3/7/12 at 11:26 am to
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anyone think Lyanna is a possibility


possibly. which causes Rhaegar to crown her as Queen of Love and Beauty
Posted by DestrehanTiger
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Posted on 3/7/12 at 11:28 am to
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 3/7/12 at 11:31 am to
Makes a lot of sense. We all know that R+L=JS, so this adds to that.
Posted by CE Tiger
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Posted on 3/7/12 at 11:31 am to
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Im almost certain it was howland


i thought this at first but then there is alot of talk of how shitty a crannogmen would be as jousters
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 3/7/12 at 11:32 am to
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possibly. which causes Rhaegar to crown her as Queen of Love and Beauty


Exactly. This Tournament could have been the catalyst for everything that happened after.
Posted by CE Tiger
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Posted on 3/7/12 at 11:33 am to
quote:


"Are you certain you never heard this tale before Bran?" asked Jojen. "Your lord father never told it to you?"


this is another big part to show its Lyanna. As Meera thought this would be a well known Stark story, however, based on the aftermath Im sure the Starks kept this tale secret.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 3/7/12 at 11:37 am to
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As Meera thought this would be a well known Stark story, however, based on the aftermath Im sure the Starks kept this tale secret.


Yep they told this like it was a Stark story, not a Reed Story.

Howland Reed is only known to leave Greywater Watch twice. Once to go to the Isle then stopping by the tourney. The next time was to get/save Lyanna. He did not participate in the rebellion so why would he be at the Tower of Joy? I think it is assumed he was one of Ned's best friends but I think he was there for Lyanna not Ned. Reed felt close to her because she went so far as to be the KotLT. It had to be more than Lyanna chased away a few squires.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
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Posted on 3/7/12 at 12:19 pm to
I always thought it was Howland Reed.... Lyanna winning a jousting contest against multiple knights is quite the stretch.
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
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Posted on 3/7/12 at 12:28 pm to
I always assumed it was Lyanna.
Posted by CE Tiger
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Posted on 3/7/12 at 12:35 pm to
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. Lyanna winning a jousting contest against multiple knights is quite the stretch.


Starks, ftw
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 3/7/12 at 12:37 pm to
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Lyanna winning a jousting contest against multiple knights is quite the stretch.


Someone who is described as "half horse" is a bigger stretch than someone who has rarely if ever sat a horse?
Posted by TexasTigah
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Posted on 3/7/12 at 12:50 pm to
Before I read this. Is it something that has already been published in the existing books?
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 3/7/12 at 1:05 pm to
quote:

Is it something that has already been published in the existing books?


Yes
Posted by Siderophore
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Posted on 3/7/12 at 1:50 pm to
Reed

Not even a debate IMO
Posted by Siderophore
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Posted on 3/7/12 at 1:52 pm to
You are forgetting the gods/magic factor
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 3/7/12 at 1:55 pm to
quote:

You are forgetting the gods/magic factor


Not forgetting, just not assuming
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