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Now that A&M will be in the SEC
Posted on 12/28/11 at 12:46 pm
Posted on 12/28/11 at 12:46 pm
can we get rid of the "Boot" and having Arky fans think we are their rival? We should be playing A&M the last week of the season.
Posted on 12/28/11 at 12:48 pm to Palm Beach Tiger
Agree and hopefully this takes place beginning with the '13 season.
Posted on 12/28/11 at 12:50 pm to Palm Beach Tiger
Arkansas will continue to be better than A&M for the near future. Until A&M has game, Arky is the rival.
Posted on 12/28/11 at 12:52 pm to graychef
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Arkansas will continue to be better than A&M for the near future. Until A&M has game, Arky is the rival.
A&M historically is much more of a rival then Arky is.
Posted on 12/28/11 at 12:58 pm to Palm Beach Tiger
i wish we could see bama more of a rival to us seeing in recent history its been much more of a heated discussion
Posted on 12/28/11 at 1:19 pm to Mikebandit
Bama has Auburn though. I consider, Bama, Auburn, and Florida more of a rival game then Arky
Posted on 12/28/11 at 1:21 pm to Palm Beach Tiger
Can't be done as long as A&M and Missouri are permenant cross-divisional opponents. If A&M and LSU were to play that weekend, Arkansas and Missouri, more often than not would have no one to play, since they are not yearly opponents. Would create too big of a scheduling headache.
Only way it happens is if the league goes to 16 (and Missouri moves west) or Arkansas and Missouri become cross-divisional opponents.
Only way it happens is if the league goes to 16 (and Missouri moves west) or Arkansas and Missouri become cross-divisional opponents.
Posted on 12/28/11 at 1:52 pm to twk
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Can't be done as long as A&M and Missouri are permenant cross-divisional opponents.
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or Arkansas and Missouri become cross-divisional opponents.
Seems like the most reasonable thing to do anyway. Arky is the only team close to Mizzou. I don't see why they can't be in different divisions and still play the last game of the year as a rivalry game? I mean South Carolina and Clemson aren't even in the same conference and they play that game.
This post was edited on 12/28/11 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 12/28/11 at 3:18 pm to Palm Beach Tiger
quote:Geographically, that makes sense, but Missouri doesn't want to lose their presence in Texas, and were therefore desparate to have A&M as their cross-over rival. Frankly, as an A&M fan, I would rather have someone else (or no cross-over, but that's another debate), but pairing up A&M and Missouri causes the least disruption for the rest of the league.
Seems like the most reasonable thing to do anyway. Arky is the only team close to Mizzou. I don't see why they can't be in different divisions and still play the last game of the year as a rivalry game? I mean South Carolina and Clemson aren't even in the same conference and they play that game.
Posted on 12/28/11 at 3:24 pm to twk
move aTm/LSU to thanksgiving(+1/+2)
let arky have their border war with mizzou the same weekend.
let arky have their border war with mizzou the same weekend.
Posted on 12/28/11 at 3:30 pm to Palm Beach Tiger
I agree if they will give us more than a couple thousand visitor seats!
Seriously, I know it had been offered up on here that they don't give as many visitor tickets as the SEC supposedly dictates. Does anyone have any new info/confirmation on this???
Seriously, I know it had been offered up on here that they don't give as many visitor tickets as the SEC supposedly dictates. Does anyone have any new info/confirmation on this???
Posted on 12/28/11 at 3:32 pm to Palm Beach Tiger
Boot is cool. Save the boot
Posted on 12/28/11 at 3:36 pm to Palm Beach Tiger
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Prefer playing A&M the last week of the season as our rival.
Dump the Boot
Posted on 12/28/11 at 3:49 pm to NameWithheld
quote:The visitors allotment in the Big XII was 3850, so it won't be less than that. A&M can probably scrounge up another 1500 or so, but going beyond that will be tough (at least until the stadium is epxanded). A&M sold out all available season tickets last year.
I agree if they will give us more than a couple thousand visitor seats!
Seriously, I know it had been offered up on here that they don't give as many visitor tickets as the SEC supposedly dictates. Does anyone have any new info/confirmation on this???
Posted on 12/28/11 at 4:13 pm to Palm Beach Tiger
rivals are not predetermined, they are developed, nurtured, and enhanced with intense competition, close games, controversial calls, when both teams are playing with something to lose (whether it be in-state bragging rights, divisional champs, conference champs, etc.), and are built up over generations, not decades.
LSU has no true rival and probably never will. Auburn during the 2000s (with a few notable games from the late 80s-90s),
but at most Auburn is more of a quasi-rivalry, it'll always have Bama to hate more.
Going forward as Auburn likely going by the wayside (I think Gene Chizick will crash and burn) combined with the reemergence of Bama as a national perennial power, Bama will replace Auburn's spot as our intermittent quasi-rivalry. But again, it will always hate Auburn more.
That said, with the institutional capacity (facilities, public support, revenue etc.) and monopolized wealth of natural resources (in-state talent), all we need is organizational leadership to ensure we remain a national power for as long as college football exists in its present form -- no other college is as nicely situated to continue wining than LSU (save Florida & Texas, both of which seem to lack organizational leadership, esp. Texas with Mack Brown at the helm, we'll see about Florida next year).
Thus, while although we will never have a true rival, over the next 20 years Bama, Auburn, Arky, etc. will all hate us more than they hate each other.
LSU has no true rival and probably never will. Auburn during the 2000s (with a few notable games from the late 80s-90s),
but at most Auburn is more of a quasi-rivalry, it'll always have Bama to hate more.
Going forward as Auburn likely going by the wayside (I think Gene Chizick will crash and burn) combined with the reemergence of Bama as a national perennial power, Bama will replace Auburn's spot as our intermittent quasi-rivalry. But again, it will always hate Auburn more.
That said, with the institutional capacity (facilities, public support, revenue etc.) and monopolized wealth of natural resources (in-state talent), all we need is organizational leadership to ensure we remain a national power for as long as college football exists in its present form -- no other college is as nicely situated to continue wining than LSU (save Florida & Texas, both of which seem to lack organizational leadership, esp. Texas with Mack Brown at the helm, we'll see about Florida next year).
Thus, while although we will never have a true rival, over the next 20 years Bama, Auburn, Arky, etc. will all hate us more than they hate each other.
This post was edited on 12/28/11 at 4:18 pm
Posted on 12/28/11 at 4:22 pm to kappadelttau
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kappadelttau
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I like the boot
May the Good Lord have mercy on you.
Posted on 12/28/11 at 4:25 pm to Tigahs
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rivals are not predetermined, they are developed, nurtured, and enhanced with intense competition, close games, controversial calls, when both teams are playing with something to lose (whether it be in-state bragging rights, divisional champs, conference champs, etc.), and are built up over generations, not decades.
that's right. the old LSU/TULANE thing was as close to a "rival" as we'll probably ever have. i have no idea why this issue is so important to some. arkansas hates us like a rival; ditto with ole miss. but, since LSU fans don't hate them enough they are not rivals. same situation with us and bama; they simply don't hate us enough. i, for one, don't give a shite about the so called rivalry thing. my football hate is very strong against alabama, auburn, ole miss, florida and texas a&m. all of these hates go back to the 60's.
Posted on 12/28/11 at 4:30 pm to Tigahs
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LSU has no true rival and probably never will.
Depends on your definition of rival. Tennessee and Vanderbilt are rivals, even though Vandie has rarely been a threat to the Vols.
LSU's lack of a rival (since the demise of Tulane football) is mostly due to everyone else already having a dance partner. The Tigers are runner-up rivals to many, main rival to none.
That could change if Ole Miss went the way of Tulane, leaving Mississippi State in need of a husband. Arkansas and aTm just seemed forced. Mississippi is much more of a sister state to Louisiana.
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