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re: Observations from first half against Bama
Posted on 12/13/11 at 12:26 am to Icansee4miles
Posted on 12/13/11 at 12:26 am to Icansee4miles
quote:Still no substance?
Struck a nerve?
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Posted on 12/13/11 at 2:11 am to tigereye58
I watched again too.
I am concerned with Simon's agility. Hanks and maze are quick and slants are high in the bama off.
Spencer Ware was in a power formation with 10 seconds left. The ball was flipped to him and he had an option of off tackle and one CB or take the middle and take on 5 DT/OLBs... Really? I saw zero vision from him. You always take off tackle at the four yard line against one CB and a time out left.
Jarrett lee is a sad man. He has no confidence in his ability to lead. That freshman year screwed him up because the only other QB I have seen shy way from contact in Tony Romo.
Our oline was awesome! If we get blue and ford more attempts than we already know what we will get but putting Hillard in spells trouble. Again I'm not sold on ware. Last year Ware was insane in the bowl game but he has regressed.
The only thing that will make or break LSU is JJ. He loves looking at option one and then running. Often times, he pulls up on that throw and takes off. Problem is Saban will SPY him with that 3-4 D.
Btw I think bama's kickers suck arse! The long FG kicker for bama does a hop and bends his knees too much. When you do this, you throw off you balance and the balls will go anywhere. The guy has a big leg but that is the ugliest swing I have seen.
I am concerned with Simon's agility. Hanks and maze are quick and slants are high in the bama off.
Spencer Ware was in a power formation with 10 seconds left. The ball was flipped to him and he had an option of off tackle and one CB or take the middle and take on 5 DT/OLBs... Really? I saw zero vision from him. You always take off tackle at the four yard line against one CB and a time out left.
Jarrett lee is a sad man. He has no confidence in his ability to lead. That freshman year screwed him up because the only other QB I have seen shy way from contact in Tony Romo.
Our oline was awesome! If we get blue and ford more attempts than we already know what we will get but putting Hillard in spells trouble. Again I'm not sold on ware. Last year Ware was insane in the bowl game but he has regressed.
The only thing that will make or break LSU is JJ. He loves looking at option one and then running. Often times, he pulls up on that throw and takes off. Problem is Saban will SPY him with that 3-4 D.
Btw I think bama's kickers suck arse! The long FG kicker for bama does a hop and bends his knees too much. When you do this, you throw off you balance and the balls will go anywhere. The guy has a big leg but that is the ugliest swing I have seen.
Posted on 12/13/11 at 5:15 am to grahammooney
All you guys concerned about JJ playing against Bama are really dumb as hell. Not only does he have bowl game success going for him, Saban hasn't been able to plan for him for 3 fricking years!!
If fans knew that JJ was going to be a big part of the scheme against Bama, then you sure as hell knew Saban did. If anything, I would have planned for JJ more than Lee because history has shown that Lee is shite when he goes against the crimson.
JJ can play like shite all year, then show up for the Bama game. And despite what people say, JJ came out bad in the Cap 1 bowl then turned it around. Put blame on recievers not catching TD strikes and the secondary not catching ints hitting them in the hands and the rbs rushing for like 40 total yards.
If fans knew that JJ was going to be a big part of the scheme against Bama, then you sure as hell knew Saban did. If anything, I would have planned for JJ more than Lee because history has shown that Lee is shite when he goes against the crimson.
JJ can play like shite all year, then show up for the Bama game. And despite what people say, JJ came out bad in the Cap 1 bowl then turned it around. Put blame on recievers not catching TD strikes and the secondary not catching ints hitting them in the hands and the rbs rushing for like 40 total yards.
Posted on 12/13/11 at 5:46 am to Godfather1
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His two bowl performances in a dome/indoor stadium have been lights out.
I know not a bowl, but if only I didn't go to Atlanta and watch the SECCG, I might agree with you. That game was BAAAAD.
This post was edited on 12/13/11 at 5:47 am
Posted on 12/13/11 at 7:04 am to TigerFan55555
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This...Bama drove the ball...sure a few penalties helped..but I'm not underestimating tr's ability....jj is going to have be accurate to win this game...Lee didn't look bad until the picks..he hit a few good passes...I look for saban to take away the option game..he said they had missed assignments
I agree... JL did hit some good passes until the int. I am not sure if we can have success with option again, I am looking for them to widen the DE/OLB and contain hard, turn any outside plays inside... which could be attacked by passing off the option. We did get to the edges faster than they did last game, but... we had some excellent blocking on several of the option plays. Really, if we can complete some short passes to keep them honest... it would make a huge difference in how they attack the outside running game. I just dont think JJ can do it, I still say we need both of em(JJ & JL) to have the most effective Off.
Posted on 12/13/11 at 8:06 am to Mayhawman
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60%cr is way off?
LSU's team 52.9%cr was drug down by Lee actually.
You do realize 50% of the top 10 rated NFL QBs complete at very near 60% rate?
JJ also threw 75% vs Gumps in 2010.
Compeltion percentage is not a perfect indicator of accuracy. Bad passes can be caught, and good passes dropped.
Some plays require perfect passes in to coverage, so being off slight will result in an incompletion, but to say it was a very inaccurate pass isnt... well, accurate.
Missing guys by throwing 6 feet over their reach or 6 feet in front, and bouncing passes 5 yards in front of them is very inaccurate however, and wont show up in stats.
This post was edited on 12/13/11 at 8:07 am
Posted on 12/13/11 at 8:17 am to tigereye58
I also re-watched it on Friday evening.
I said it from the conclusion of the game that Nick should NOT have went for field goals; therefore, their scoring potential would not have looked so good! Ever heard of punting Nicky?
I thought JJ's throw to RS was meant for the other receiver and Shep was just there thankfully???
Although Bama did run a lot on LSU, they only entered the red zone once, AND the reason they had these long drives was because of our excellent punter and their blantant penalities. In addition to the interception Reid made on the 1 yard line, LSU was in much better scoring position throughout the entire game. If LSU had more than 15 seconds before the end of the the 2nd quarter they would have scored 7 points easily! We had 1st and goal but not enough time!
Kudos to Claiborne for the interception! He provided a spark when our team needed it most!
I'm not sure Shep could have caught that ball in the the endzone....Hubby says NO!
So to the gumps--see ya on--January 9, 2012 in the Louisiana Superdome! (Ok I know it's officially the Mercedes Benz Superdome)........
I said it from the conclusion of the game that Nick should NOT have went for field goals; therefore, their scoring potential would not have looked so good! Ever heard of punting Nicky?
I thought JJ's throw to RS was meant for the other receiver and Shep was just there thankfully???
Although Bama did run a lot on LSU, they only entered the red zone once, AND the reason they had these long drives was because of our excellent punter and their blantant penalities. In addition to the interception Reid made on the 1 yard line, LSU was in much better scoring position throughout the entire game. If LSU had more than 15 seconds before the end of the the 2nd quarter they would have scored 7 points easily! We had 1st and goal but not enough time!
Kudos to Claiborne for the interception! He provided a spark when our team needed it most!
I'm not sure Shep could have caught that ball in the the endzone....Hubby says NO!
So to the gumps--see ya on--January 9, 2012 in the Louisiana Superdome! (Ok I know it's officially the Mercedes Benz Superdome)........
This post was edited on 12/13/11 at 8:20 am
Posted on 12/13/11 at 8:22 am to tigereye58
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JJ's accuracy was way off. I hope he gets 90% w the first team in practice. He was really only effective in the option. His throw to RS should have been a TD if he had better accuracy.
I agree. I am dubious about Mr. Jefferson's ability to be accurate consistently. Had he thrown a good pass to Sheppard, 'Bama likely goes to the Sugar Bowl.
Posted on 12/13/11 at 8:24 am to grahammooney
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but putting Hillard in spells trouble
Trouble for bama
Posted on 12/13/11 at 8:52 am to grahammooney
quote:Holy shite.
Jarrett lee is a sad man. He has no confidence in his ability to lead.
Posted on 12/13/11 at 8:59 am to BobBoucher
quote:What a crock.
Compeltion percentage is not a perfect indicator of accuracy.
So how do you suppose we quantify passing accuracy?
I guess that's why all the Top Ten FBS QBs throw near or above 70%.
Every other QB is judged by the same measure and they all miss, have drops, and PBUs. Comp% and RAT reflects that.
Posted on 12/13/11 at 9:07 am to ottothewise
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Bama missed two open TD passes, not counting the Maze/INT/Reid.
LSU missed to TD's also, 1 inside the 5 and another inside the 15, not counting the OT TD.
Bama better have the crap in order are Ware/Ford/Hillard and Co. are going exactly that.
This post was edited on 12/13/11 at 9:08 am
Posted on 12/13/11 at 9:18 am to AcetheTigah
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Obviously you don't remember the awful performance by JJ against Penn State in the Cap One bowl.
Sorry to burst your bubble but he threw for 202 yards and a TD. Completed 54% of his passes (not that great but there were a lot of dropped passes due to the sick ball) and threw an interception.
Not really "awful"
Posted on 12/13/11 at 9:42 am to tigereye58
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JL first pick was a bad snap and he threw to a spot. He never really got to see the play develop. Bad throw but not entirely his fault. He threw some nice passes then seemed in a daze after the pick.
I thought JL looked fine initially on a few completions, and shell shocked after pick. After not having thrown many during the season, it certainly seemed to affect him.
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6.) Ford's burst of speed is amazing against Bama. We need more Blue and Ford off tackle against Bama.
Agreed. Plus we'll have to get in between the tackles. Hilliard will be huge- he can challenge their LBS head on behind Copeland.
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7.) JJ's accuracy was way off. I hope he gets 90% w the first team in practice. He was really only effective in the option. His throw to RS should have been a TD if he had better accuracy.
JJ always seems to be hot or cold with accuracy. He was terribly inaccurate in SECCG. I expect him to play well in January.
Posted on 12/13/11 at 9:50 am to tigereye58
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7.) JJ's accuracy was way off. I hope he gets 90% w the first team in practice. He was really only effective in the option. His throw to RS should have been a TD if he had better accuracy.
It was a late throw...but Shep fell down, for no reason.
Posted on 12/13/11 at 10:01 am to tigereye58
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I am rewatching the Bama game.
I just happened to rewatch it last night. I mostly agree but have a couple of comments below.
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2.) JL first pick was a bad snap and he threw to a spot. He never really got to see the play develop. Bad throw but not entirely his fault. He threw some nice passes then seemed in a daze after the pick.
I disagree with this. It was completely JL's fault. The snap was low but JL panicked. He thought the rush was coming but we picked it up. He actually had a lot more time than he thought. So he got the low snap looked up and threw to the only guy in double coverage: Russell Shepard. Meanwhile Beckham made a double move on the outside and was even with his defender when JL threw the pass to RS. OBJ just flew by his man and it would have been a TD if JL had had the presence of mind to look his way. I also noticed that JL came out playing well but seemed to tighten up as the game went on.
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7.) JJ's accuracy was way off. I hope he gets 90% w the first team in practice. He was really only effective in the option. His throw to RS should have been a TD if he had better accuracy.
It wasn't so much his accuracy but he was late on almost every pass. On the throw to RS, if the ball comes out sooner, RS is completely alone over the middle because of a blown coverage. (3 defenders took one guy [DLo?] and nobody took RS.)
Posted on 12/13/11 at 10:24 am to MountainTiger
So JL throws early and and JJ throws late
Posted on 12/13/11 at 10:26 am to TheDoc
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So JL throws early and and JJ throws late
basically.
Posted on 12/13/11 at 10:41 am to TheDoc
Never thought of it that way but...yeah, that's about it.
Posted on 12/13/11 at 8:13 pm to MountainTiger
By accuracy I meant the sum of where the ball hits the receiver even if he catches it or not and his overall timing with the receivers. I think if he gets more reps during the break he can improve this dramatically. All the JJ lovers and JL lovers tried to make this all about them. I think at this point we just trust Miles assessment. If he thinks JJ should be starting then I hope he gets most of the reps so his accuracy/ timing and sync with the receivers is better. This is more of a result of Bama being his first extended action and splitting reps with JL in my mind. Not a criticism of JJ as some took it.
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