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Let us discuss theories on the increased use of Kenny Hilliard
Posted on 11/28/11 at 9:10 am
Posted on 11/28/11 at 9:10 am
specifically over Spencer Ware
why do you think we are seeing him used a whole lot more in the second half of the season?
here are a couple of my ideas, and i hope that you can add more
1. Ware could be getting a little tired and banged up over the long season. Using fresh legs is allowing Ware to heal up a little and be at 100% for the stretch run
2. Hilliard is just seeing holes better and being more productive in practice and games
3. Coaching staff knows that winning football games requires wave upon wave of talent bring thrown at the opposition. Hilliard provides us that second power back that the staff feels we need
4. Could Ware be hurt a little more than we might want to believe? Not hurt enough to miss game, but enough to drop his effectiveness that we were seeing around the Tennessee game.
Please add more thoughts. Just find it interesting that we start the season on a roll with Lee and Ware and now have Jefferson and Hilliard doing a lot of the heavy lifting.
why do you think we are seeing him used a whole lot more in the second half of the season?
here are a couple of my ideas, and i hope that you can add more
1. Ware could be getting a little tired and banged up over the long season. Using fresh legs is allowing Ware to heal up a little and be at 100% for the stretch run
2. Hilliard is just seeing holes better and being more productive in practice and games
3. Coaching staff knows that winning football games requires wave upon wave of talent bring thrown at the opposition. Hilliard provides us that second power back that the staff feels we need
4. Could Ware be hurt a little more than we might want to believe? Not hurt enough to miss game, but enough to drop his effectiveness that we were seeing around the Tennessee game.
Please add more thoughts. Just find it interesting that we start the season on a roll with Lee and Ware and now have Jefferson and Hilliard doing a lot of the heavy lifting.
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Posted on 11/28/11 at 9:11 am to Rouge
Jefferson and Hilliard are better players than Lee and Ware. I don't think its that hard to comprehend breh.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 9:12 am to Rouge
Vision is #1..........Ware seems to be set on taking the hole head on and banging for 3 tough yards........the rest of the backs have been finding the creases with much more effectiveness.....SEE YPC.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 9:12 am to Rouge
Hillard is true frosh that needed time to adapt to college game/learn playbook
Posted on 11/28/11 at 9:12 am to Rouge
Is Ware really being less productive when asked to be? Or are we just asking less of him... for whatever reason... and his productivity is down because of it?
Posted on 11/28/11 at 9:13 am to Rouge
I think Ware bulked a little much in the off season. Might have made him a little slower. Still a good power back. 
Posted on 11/28/11 at 9:13 am to Rouge
hilliard has more fresh legs, may be practicing harder, is as old as Ware (isn't hilliard like 19 or 20), and is just really successful when he touches the ball. not saying ware isn't but hilliard has just been impressive to say the least.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 9:13 am to Rouge
Spencer is a punishing RB who tends to slide and skip to the side more. He is from the Hester mold, HIT SOMEONE and make it hurt.
Ford is a speedster that goes outside
KH27 is a man child that has good speed, but runs north south better than anyone on the team. He hits the hole, or makes one.
Don't get me started on Blue...if he comes in late in the game, tired defenses have no shot.
KH has been strategically brought in the 2nd half of the season probably because he is blowing up in practices against our #1 defense....we need KH to run strong against Bama...
Ford is a speedster that goes outside
KH27 is a man child that has good speed, but runs north south better than anyone on the team. He hits the hole, or makes one.
Don't get me started on Blue...if he comes in late in the game, tired defenses have no shot.
KH has been strategically brought in the 2nd half of the season probably because he is blowing up in practices against our #1 defense....we need KH to run strong against Bama...
Posted on 11/28/11 at 9:13 am to Rouge
Getting the younger backs more game experience = more effective at rotating multiple backs down the stretch to wear out opponents' defenses, which seems to be what Miles is all about.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 9:14 am to Rouge
Hilliard is just better and has been slowly worked in to the point where Miles has confidence in him.
Honestly, about the only thing I think Ware does better than Hilliard is catching the ball out of the back field which we have pretty much abandoned this year anyway.
Honestly, about the only thing I think Ware does better than Hilliard is catching the ball out of the back field which we have pretty much abandoned this year anyway.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 9:15 am to Rouge
Riding the hot hand. Fresh legs is the key to our running game. These backs are hungry
Posted on 11/28/11 at 9:16 am to Rouge
1. Maybe, but probably not the primary reason.
2. Probably not.
3. Yes. Very true. Both 11 & 27 run hard and finish runs. Miles really likes those qualities.
4. Probably not.
5. He weighs 20 lbs more than Ware. That helps him get a little more push in short yardage. And, he's played well when given opportunities.
2. Probably not.
3. Yes. Very true. Both 11 & 27 run hard and finish runs. Miles really likes those qualities.
4. Probably not.
5. He weighs 20 lbs more than Ware. That helps him get a little more push in short yardage. And, he's played well when given opportunities.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 9:18 am to Rouge
because Hilliard is doing a great job
Posted on 11/28/11 at 9:21 am to Rouge
Maybe all. Hilliard is a beast.
Plus, you know the coaches are so broad-minded, they may even be giving him reps to help prep him for next season.
Plus, you know the coaches are so broad-minded, they may even be giving him reps to help prep him for next season.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 9:25 am to Rouge
I think Les just does these things to frick with other teams and he likes to try new things out.
There is no way you can prepare for 5 rbs. Like in the spring game both punters used their left foot just to mess with other teams
There is no way you can prepare for 5 rbs. Like in the spring game both punters used their left foot just to mess with other teams
Posted on 11/28/11 at 9:30 am to Rouge
Ware has definitely lost a little juice, he's not close to how he was running in the Florida game, for example. Maybe injury, maybe dead legs, who knows
And Hilliard is in the zone
I'd say that's about it
And Hilliard is in the zone
I'd say that's about it
Posted on 11/28/11 at 9:38 am to Rouge
Ware got suspended for Auburn, & Hilliard got a shot. The shot got extended when Blue got nicked on that long run in Oxford.
Both Ware & Hilliard are gifted runners but absorbe punishment via their running styles just as much as they deliver it. Which is to say a lot.
Hilliard has pounced on his opportunities, & presents another between-the-tackle option that gives you more versatile options in playcalling, because he's actually got much better acceleration, and his footwork is amazing. His lateral cuts/"jump cuts" (Ridley was a master of this) are just great.
We're keeping Ware healthy, feeding a young, talented horse, & getting better production out of both of them. Net positive for LSU as a result.
Both Ware & Hilliard are gifted runners but absorbe punishment via their running styles just as much as they deliver it. Which is to say a lot.
Hilliard has pounced on his opportunities, & presents another between-the-tackle option that gives you more versatile options in playcalling, because he's actually got much better acceleration, and his footwork is amazing. His lateral cuts/"jump cuts" (Ridley was a master of this) are just great.
We're keeping Ware healthy, feeding a young, talented horse, & getting better production out of both of them. Net positive for LSU as a result.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 9:40 am to Rouge
It seems to me that Ware isn't 100% healthy. He's not punishing like he did before Bama.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 9:54 am to Rouge
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2. Hilliard is just seeing holes better and being more productive in practice and games
this.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 10:17 am to Rouge
Hillard still needs to mature. He made some bad choices Friday and was going East-West and got tackled pretty easily. When he made a quick North-South cut he does better.
Ware looks tenative in the hole and not running with the same violence. He runs mainly between the tackles so he is screwed when he stops. I have seen him hesitate more over the last few weeks.
We really need to see Blue get healthy as I think we will need to try Ware, Hillard (inside) and Blue, Ford (outside with speed option) against Bama.
Also, I thought JJ saw the zone read better than he had all season against Arky. Hopefully that continues as well.
Ware looks tenative in the hole and not running with the same violence. He runs mainly between the tackles so he is screwed when he stops. I have seen him hesitate more over the last few weeks.
We really need to see Blue get healthy as I think we will need to try Ware, Hillard (inside) and Blue, Ford (outside with speed option) against Bama.
Also, I thought JJ saw the zone read better than he had all season against Arky. Hopefully that continues as well.
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