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re: What would give OK State a better chance at making the NC?

Posted on 11/25/11 at 9:42 pm to
Posted by 7thWardTiger
Richmond, Texas
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Posted on 11/25/11 at 9:42 pm to
VT hasn't secured a spot in champ game yet. They play Arch Rival UVA tomorrow. Winner goes to ACCCG
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 11/25/11 at 9:43 pm to
Stanford has only ND, I think they will win, but they also won't win their conference and play on Dec 3 like OSU will. Not winning their conference and being idle on Champ weekend may knock them down a notch.

Va Tech is at UVA tomorrow, the winner goes to the ACC CG. UVA is 8-3, VT is favored, but not impossible they lose. If they do win, they play Clemson in the ACC CG, Clemson already beat VT 23-3 at VT. I think there is a good chance they lose 1 of those. We'll see.

ETA: Note my favorite team logo
This post was edited on 11/25/11 at 9:45 pm
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
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Posted on 11/25/11 at 9:47 pm to
Ah yeah. Forgot about UVA.

Why wouldn't Stanford win their conference? They're 10-1 and Oregon is only 9-2?
Posted by 7thWardTiger
Richmond, Texas
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 11/25/11 at 9:48 pm to
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Why wouldn't Stanford win their conference? They're 10-1 and Oregon is only 9-2?
think about it man

Oregon lost to LSU and USC. Stanford loss to Oregon. One of those loses is not like the other.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 11/25/11 at 9:56 pm to
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Why wouldn't Stanford win their conference? They're 10-1 and Oregon is only 9-2?


both will be 8-1 in conference. Head to head tie breaker sends Oregon to the PAC 12 title game since they are both in the North Division.
This post was edited on 11/25/11 at 9:57 pm
Posted by THEphenom
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Posted on 11/25/11 at 10:50 pm to
Vt or stanford loss certainly helps their human poll score which would help to boost total points for bcs mix of comp/human right?

Wouldnt an ou win tomorrow(computer strength of schedule) help the osu bid for the title game?(of course if osu beats out in 2 wks)

Does it help that osu will have beaten 5 teams that at game time have been ranked top 25
Posted by 7thWardTiger
Richmond, Texas
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 11/25/11 at 10:54 pm to
OSU is maxed in comps due to LSU winning out.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 11/25/11 at 10:56 pm to
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Wouldnt an ou win tomorrow(computer strength of schedule) help the osu bid for the title game?


no, they play Baylor who OSU has played, so its a wash.

quote:

Does it help that osu will have beaten 5 teams that at game time have been ranked top 25


no, overall record of their opponents matters, they can gain a little by Bama opponents, Penn State and Florida losing.
Posted by Jamohn
Das Boot
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Posted on 11/25/11 at 11:16 pm to
Actually it's Iowa State but your common opponent point is right either way.
Posted by Rickie
Portland, ME
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 11/25/11 at 11:16 pm to
OU plays ISU tomorrow

A VT loss this weekend or in the ACC title game would be huge for us

Even if VT wins out it won't really matter IMO

The voters will be voting for Bama or OSU on that final ballot, who they want to see in the NCG

Hopefully they will be smart enough to see VT doesn't really matter in the end

I see both arguments for Bama, and obviously OSU
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 11/26/11 at 12:12 am to
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A) VT and Stanford both lose, making OSU the clear #3.
Posted by Archie Bengal Bunker
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Posted on 11/26/11 at 12:14 am to
Moreso than 2007, this will be the year that test whether voters "collude" to put a particular team in.
Posted by Ford Frenzy
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Posted on 11/26/11 at 12:27 am to
Ok State just needs to be #3 in the human polls
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36708 posts
Posted on 11/26/11 at 12:28 am to
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Moreso than 2007, this will be the year that test whether voters "collude" to put a particular team in.


the difference between collusion and conventional wisdom settled through debate is probably a matter of perspective
Posted by 7thWardTiger
Richmond, Texas
Member since Nov 2009
24670 posts
Posted on 11/26/11 at 12:29 am to
Not even that. They can be 4 as lomg as they are pulling some #2 and #3 votes. They just need a good mix of the 2,3&4 splitting votes.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 11/26/11 at 1:15 am to
LINK


Hella interesting on this subject... a great diversity of opinion on which BCS NCG match-up would be most preferred.

Posted by dgtiger3
Prairieville
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 11/26/11 at 1:16 am to
quote:

Hella interesting on this subject... a great diversity of opinion on which BCS NCG match-up would be most preferred.

Yeah I took a screencap of that sportsnation poll and sent it to my friend earlier, the chatter is already starting.
Posted by dgtiger3
Prairieville
Member since Sep 2005
5702 posts
Posted on 11/26/11 at 1:17 am to
MY BREAKDOWN FOR TOMORROW REPOSTED FROM THE RANT:

Figured I would break down what to root for if you don't wanna see a rematch. I have 6 Oklahoma State BCSNCG Ticket Reserves so that should pretty much tell you my stance. We obviously want Oklahoma State to gain a stronghold on all 6 of the computers over Bama and want them to gain as many human votes as possible.

Here is what to root for on Saturday November 26th
in order of importance IMO
1.) Auburn over Alabama - Obviously the most important and easiest way to get Bama out of the title game.
2.) Virginia over Virginia Tech - VT is the biggest threat of taking away human votes from Oklahoma St.
3.) Notre Dame over Stanford - Stanford is also taking some of Oklahoma States votes in the polls but may lose some luster during Championship Week.
4.) Wisconsin over Penn St. - Alabama's biggest win of the season is over Penn State.
5.) FSU over Florida
Wake Forest over Vanderbilt
Kentucky over Tennessee - All three of these games would hurt Alabamas computer score.

8.) Georgia Tech over Georgia
Clemson over South Carolina - While this wouldnt effect the computers, my logic here is that if the SEC has a down week, with a few teams losing to ACC Opponents, it will make the SEC appear weaker to some of the human voters which could help them to use as an excuse to not vote Bama #2
10.) Kansas State over Iowa State - I think Miami losing to BC pretty much rules out this theory, but Kansas State is one of the few schools left that had a very very tiny chance of jumping Alabama in one or two of the computer polls.

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