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re: Pretty funny by Guilbeau

Posted on 11/13/11 at 5:57 pm to
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
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Posted on 11/13/11 at 5:57 pm to
You know what I'm talking about.

What is right with his quotes/implications about starting JJ?
Posted by Purpltiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
236 posts
Posted on 11/13/11 at 5:59 pm to
Cincinnati Tiger.....totally agree with your assessment!!
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261718 posts
Posted on 11/13/11 at 5:59 pm to
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You are just speaking out of your arse, unsurprisingly.



No, you don't have the cognitive ability to even have this discussion, rationally, and have no clue what anyone is talking about. No one is shocked. Not understanding what the term bias means is the least of your worries. It's all been laid out for you, you just are incapable of seeing it. No need to explain it further.
Posted by MandevilleLSUTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
6881 posts
Posted on 11/13/11 at 5:59 pm to
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he managed to elude the rush, roll right and hit wide receiver Jarvis Landry for a 20-yard gain to the Western Kentucky 17 anyway. That is a perfect example of Jefferson's strength


Hole. E. Shite.

This was the play he missed a wide open WR down the middle, in what would have been a TD.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261718 posts
Posted on 11/13/11 at 6:00 pm to
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That statement was a random hypothetical, bias was no way involved.




Sorry Jethro, there is your proof. Didn't make anything up. You should keep track of your conversations.
Posted by south bama tiger
Member since May 2008
6646 posts
Posted on 11/13/11 at 6:02 pm to
I had to laugh at the replay because Landry was wide open, waving his arms around, waiting for Jefferson to throw it. It wasn't until JJ scrambled right that he threw the ball. And then Landry had to come back and make a great catch.

There were multiple receivers open deep on that play and of course Jefferson decides to recline back and watch his receivers run circles around the DBs instead of throwing the ball
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81744 posts
Posted on 11/13/11 at 6:03 pm to
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What is right with his quotes/implications about starting JJ?
You seriously see no issue with that? No issue with zero Lee in the first half? Hell, JJ barely was elligible for UK and he got in in the first half. Miles waited by the Tiger for Ungelsby's(sp?) call so he could get JJ to practice. Has JJ missed an entire half since coming back?
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16036 posts
Posted on 11/13/11 at 6:03 pm to
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I think he feels he can win it with either,


no he feels he can win it with both, or maybe just JJ, he doesn't feel he can win it with just JL as evidenced by the Bama game.
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 11/13/11 at 6:03 pm to
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No, you don't have the cognitive ability to even have this discussion, rationally, and have no clue what anyone is talking about.


I just raised about 10 points that completely dissolved your "argument" and now you are turning this into ad hominem attacks.

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Not understanding what the term bias means is the least of your worries. It's all been laid out for you, you just are incapable of seeing it. No need to explain it further.


I defined bias in this thread. I understand the term fine. I gave you ample opportunity to explain what bias Miles is exhibiting by choosing to play Jordan Jefferson for the majority of the snaps against Western Kentucky. But, shockingly, you've been unable to explain what the "bias" is here other than to make vague and elusive statements like "it's all there and you just don't see it."

Basically, you don't have an argument, so you've resorted to insulting me personally and saying things like "everyone sees it but you" which is saying absolutely nothing.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261718 posts
Posted on 11/13/11 at 6:05 pm to
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no he feels he can win it with both, or maybe just JJ, he doesn't feel he can win it with just JL as evidenced by the Bama game.


What did JJ do in the Bama game JL couldn't have done to win the game?

Both can win it all, LSU can with it with either/or. Just need the right offense in place.
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
Member since Sep 2005
23075 posts
Posted on 11/13/11 at 6:06 pm to
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What did JJ do in the Bama game JL couldn't have done to win the game?
srsly?
Posted by Cinci Tiger
Ohio
Member since Jan 2008
593 posts
Posted on 11/13/11 at 6:07 pm to
Purple Tiger

Thanks, Its seams so obvious....whats everybody bitching about....

Perhaps my past bad coaching sentiments should have been directed toward Crowton.

It appears as if they are gearing up to cut this offens loose.

What good timing
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261718 posts
Posted on 11/13/11 at 6:09 pm to
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I just raised about 10 points that completely dissolved your "argument" and now you are turning this into ad hominem attacks.




No you didn't. YOu offered your opinion. The same thing others did and yet you bash them? Yeah, YOUR opinion based on nothing more than...well..more of your opinion and is biased is worth more than everyone elses???





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I defined bias in this thread. I understand the term fine. I gave you ample opportunity to explain what bias Miles is exhibiting by choosing to play Jordan Jefferson for the majority of the snaps against Western Kentucky. But, shockingly, you've been unable to explain what the "bias" is here other than to make vague and elusive statements like "it's all there and you just don't see it."



You apparently still don't know what it means.

quote:

Basically, you don't have an argument, so you've resorted to insulting me personally and saying things like "everyone sees it but you" which is saying absolutely nothing.


IF that is what you have got out of this thread, there is no helping you. Never used the term you posted, liar.
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 11/13/11 at 6:09 pm to
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No issue with zero Lee in the first half?


That's not the point he was making with those quotes.

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Hell, JJ barely was elligible for UK and he got in in the first half. Miles waited by the Tiger for Ungelsby's(sp?) call so he could get JJ to practice. Has JJ missed an entire half since coming back?


Shep was "barely" eligibile vs. WVU and got in on the first 5 plays. What's your point?

His job is to win games. If JJ helps your team do this, in any capacity, it would be a mistake to NOT use him.

Same should absolutely be said of Jarrett Lee.

Do I agree with Lee not playing until the late 4th quarter last night?

No.

However, I also belive that Miles realizes what he has in Lee: a dependable game manager who is going to get rid of the ball fast, will operate the offense and make simple reads and throws and move the chains. He doesn't need Lee to work on that against WKU.

Additionally, he doesn't think Lee is a fragile ego who needs to build up stats vs. WKU to feel better about himself after a poor performance vs. Alabama. He's around him plenty and knows his confidence is fine.

What he doesn't know is what this offense would look like with JJ as a running/throwing threat against a team not named Alabama.

Why not run the option with JJ? Why did the plays look different from what he had been doing? Well, because we know he does those things well. So instead we tried to work on things he's struggled with (i.e. playaction, standing in the pocket and getting rid of the ball... which he did okay with.. still held it too long on multiple occasions).
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261718 posts
Posted on 11/13/11 at 6:10 pm to
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What did JJ do in the Bama game JL couldn't have done to win the game?

srsly?




To win the game. Yes. You do understand what that means, right?
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 11/13/11 at 6:10 pm to
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What did JJ do in the Bama game JL couldn't have done to win the game?


El oh fricking el.

I can't even believe I waste time arguing with you.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41293 posts
Posted on 11/13/11 at 6:11 pm to
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What did JJ do in the Bama game JL couldn't have done to win the game?


Lolwut
Posted by MandevilleLSUTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
6881 posts
Posted on 11/13/11 at 6:12 pm to
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You seriously see no issue with that? No issue with zero Lee in the first half? Hell, JJ barely was elligible for UK and he got in in the first half. Miles waited by the Tiger for Ungelsby's(sp?) call so he could get JJ to practice. Has JJ missed an entire half since coming back?


This is my issue with last night. Not JJ playing. I think he should play, situationally, as Miles used to call it. But the rotation going away, and Les basically stating that JJ is my guy and Lee is the backup with snap breakdown. Maybe he's not saying that, but it sure seemed that way. And I don't understand why that would be the case. You can't just dismiss a guy who stepped in under fire and helped get you to 8-0. Or saved your arse last year, on more than one occasion. Or at least I wouldn't, but I'm not Les. I'm a fan of Les- trust his decisions, etc- but just not the one he made last night.
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 11/13/11 at 6:12 pm to
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No you didn't. YOu offered your opinion. The same thing others did and yet you bash them? Yeah, YOUR opinion based on nothing more than...well..more of your opinion and is biased is worth more than everyone elses???



Besides writing a really circular sentence, why are you trying to be so evasive?

I will ask you again, for the 3rd time:

WHAT IS THE BIAS?

Explain to me WHAT BIAS Miles is exhibiting.

I gave you particular examples of bias that it could be as a starter, but you weren't willing to build on any of that.

So what is the bias Miles is using for his reasoning to start JJ over Lee?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261718 posts
Posted on 11/13/11 at 6:13 pm to
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What did JJ do in the Bama game JL couldn't have done to win the game?



Lolwut



What did JJ do to win the game? JJ didn't win the game.
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