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Former Big East Commish: People are not thinking about

Posted on 9/19/11 at 2:09 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/19/11 at 2:09 pm
the unintended consequences of expansion

This was on OTL just now on ESPN2

i fully agree. the ACC is the last major conference to expand in a big way, and they've become the 1st or 2nd worst BCS conference

Posted by PuntBamaPunt
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Posted on 9/19/11 at 2:11 pm to
when were they ever good at FB? it's a Bball league.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
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Posted on 9/19/11 at 2:12 pm to
there is no reason the Big 12 and Big East can't merge.

I truly hope the SEC stops at 14...
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/19/11 at 2:12 pm to
they increased their membership almost solely for football. look at the member schools and the CFB title game goal
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/19/11 at 2:16 pm to
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there is no reason the Big 12 and Big East can't merge.

i still think UT's best option is to have OU/OSU leave for the pac-x conference and orchestrate some newer/small schools to join (like houston, rice, smu, boise state, etc). they could keep the LNH and dominate over their minions like UT wants to do
Posted by CajunFootball
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Posted on 9/19/11 at 2:19 pm to
Would be no worse then the current Big East.
Posted by Bubba Hotep
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 9/19/11 at 2:28 pm to
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i still think UT's best option is to have OU/OSU leave for the pac-x conference and orchestrate some newer/small schools to join (like houston, rice, smu, boise state, etc). they could keep the LNH and dominate over their minions like UT wants to do


I also agree with this. It would allow them to be basically independant, but have a home for their smaller schools.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 9/19/11 at 2:30 pm to
exactly

keep LHN? check

make $18-20M per in a tv deal? check

keep a conference for logistics? check

dominate its conference? check

if UT wants to keep the LHN, this is the way to go

Posted by CajunFootball
Jackson, Mississippi
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 9/19/11 at 2:30 pm to
If UT wants to just do to everyone...this is the way to go.
Posted by guttata
prairieville
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Posted on 9/19/11 at 2:32 pm to
Just like Notre Dame.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/19/11 at 2:32 pm to
it would be pretty awesome. such a dick move

esp if they recruit boise just to do it
Posted by LSU NO Tigah
New Orleans
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Posted on 9/19/11 at 2:33 pm to
All of this expansion is not good for the overall game of college football. It may mean more money for each school in the big conferences but this damages the game in my opinion. I'm a traditionalist when it comes to college football. It's the traditions that enrich this game and make it so much better to me than pro sports. I think the dollar signs are getting in the way of what has made the sport what it is.
Posted by CajunFootball
Jackson, Mississippi
Member since Oct 2010
19432 posts
Posted on 9/19/11 at 2:34 pm to
I would laugh pretty hard. They'd be playing Tulame every week and people would be like "OHHHH UT IS SOO GOOD" and those stupid people would be swimming in profit.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466274 posts
Posted on 9/19/11 at 2:35 pm to
yeah i bet they'd recruit one of:

ULL
La Tech
Tulane

why? WHY NOT
Posted by spslayto
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 9/19/11 at 2:40 pm to
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make $18-20M per in a tv deal? check


True. But their new conference probably won't strike a lucrative deal with the teams being thrown out there. In the long run, Texas's independent deal may not be much better than teams in the better conferences receive, unless Texas renogiates if the Big 12 falls apart. It may help them with overall exposure.
Posted by Bubba Hotep
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 9/19/11 at 2:41 pm to
The problem would be keeping a BCS bid. They would need to keep the non-Oklahoma schools in, and add Boise and BYU and they would be set. They are not for adding all the SWC rejects, so I don't see them going for SMU, Houston, et al. Maybe TCU, if that ship hasn't sailed.

In fact, if they were to replace Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Colorado and Nebraska, with Boise, BYU, TCU and one other, say New Mexico or Colorado State, that wouldn't been too bad.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/19/11 at 2:46 pm to
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The problem would be keeping a BCS bid.

as long as Texas stays texas of 02-08, they'll be fine. esp if they snipe a boise

Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 9/19/11 at 2:48 pm to
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the ACC is the last major conference to expand in a big way, and they've become the 1st or 2nd worst BCS conference


I'm not sure I'd count that as an unitended consequence. Certainly by adding Miami, VT and BC the ACC was hoping to improve as a FB conference, but expanding was not why it hasn't happened, basically Miami and FSU went in the tank. Purely coincdential to expanding the ACC.
Posted by Bubba Hotep
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 9/19/11 at 2:49 pm to
Boise should be lobbying hard for this. It would be their only prayer of playing in a BCS conference. UT would also let BYU have any kind of Mormon network they wanted as well and let them pretend to be independant.
Posted by usc6158
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Posted on 9/19/11 at 2:49 pm to
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i fully agree. the ACC is the last major conference to expand in a big way, and they've become the 1st or 2nd worst BCS conference



That had more to do with Miami and FSU completely collapsing at the same time than anything inherantly wrong with expansion
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