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Posted on 9/2/11 at 9:49 am
Posted by BallHawk
Orlando
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 9/2/11 at 9:49 am
Hey guys, I don't post much but I kinda wanted to chime in on this debate.

What about Wake Forest? Hear me out. I don't, by any means, think they are high profile program, but they are usually solid in basketball and somewhat decent in baseball.

Based on different radio programs I've heard I believe South Carolina, Florida, and Georgia won't sign off any possibilities coming from out of their state so that would count out Florida State, Clemson, and Georgia Tech. South Florida would be unlikely too.

I've also heard the idea of Virginia Tech. While great on paper, I know that the brass at Virginia pulled a lot of strings to get them into the ACC a decade ago so it would be hard to get them out. They're more of a package deal. The same can be said of UNC and Duke. NC State would, too, be out I believe in that case.

With that being said that leaves three markets. Kansas City, DC, and Charlotte. DC, while great, is too far north and with VA Tech being an issue I don't see it happening. Maryland, maybe? Unlikely IMO. Missouri in the KC market would be solid, but I don't think it makes sense geographically and would prove difficult to re-align the divisions. That leaves Charlotte, IMO. Wake, like I said, is good at other sports and would benefit us in the sense of going into that market not only for football but other sports as well.

Sorry for the long post. That's just my two cents. I could be really wrong and off base, but I don't think the choice, if there is one, will be someone everybody thought. Thanks.
Posted by RollTideTA
Member since Nov 2010
560 posts
Posted on 9/2/11 at 9:51 am to
How about No, Scott.

we don't need any deacon blues running around
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
44947 posts
Posted on 9/2/11 at 9:58 am to
quote:

What about Wake Forest


Posted by The Easter Bunny
Santa Barbara
Member since Jan 2005
45655 posts
Posted on 9/2/11 at 10:00 am to
Wake Forest is a shittier version of Georgia Tech.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96876 posts
Posted on 9/2/11 at 10:00 am to
what does wake forest have? like 47 students? no thanks.
Posted by hoginthesw
DFW
Member since Sep 2009
5329 posts
Posted on 9/2/11 at 10:03 am to
they have a kid named nikita whitlock that was voted the number one defensive player in Texas 5A in 2009....but, that's it. kid was amazing and lit up every game but the state champ game against Katy. He was like 5'8" though, so that's why he ended up at Wake.
Posted by BallHawk
Orlando
Member since Jul 2011
6052 posts
Posted on 9/2/11 at 10:07 am to
I think everyone is looking at this from a purely football perspective. It's not based on just that. It's also based on location and market. The SEC doesn't have any teams in North Carolina. They have talent there in all three big sports. It would be a good way to channel that market. Like I said in my OP, I know WF isn't a marquee program, but they offer more in other sports kinda like Vandy does. It would elevate SEC basketball IMO.
Posted by SwatMitchell
Austin, TX
Member since Jan 2005
2329 posts
Posted on 9/2/11 at 10:13 am to
quote:

I think everyone is looking at this from a purely football perspective.


Those that are looking purely football are missing the point - which is markets/TV/$$ and getting out in front in the race to 16 team "superconferences".
This post was edited on 9/2/11 at 10:15 am
Posted by WoodlandsAg07
Where Our Stadiums Drop the Top, TX
Member since Aug 2011
288 posts
Posted on 9/2/11 at 10:16 am to
I think the "tied together" thing is mostly BS. If we could get by our clusterfrick legislature and separate from Texas, anyone can if they truly want to.
Posted by BallHawk
Orlando
Member since Jul 2011
6052 posts
Posted on 9/2/11 at 10:18 am to
quote:

Those that are looking purely football are missing the point - which is markets/TV/$$ and getting out in front in the race to 16 team "superconferences".


That's exactly my point. SEC wants a new market to dive into. Geographically speaking, North Carolina makes the most sense. UNC, Duke, and NC State are the least likely to leave the ACC from that state. WF is probably a longshot, if we wanted them, but they make sense IMO.
Posted by Amp4LSU
West Monroe
Member since Sep 2006
347 posts
Posted on 9/2/11 at 10:18 am to
to some degree, having a team such as Wake, could potentially do the same thing that aTm will do in the state of Texas.

It's not 'the' school in the state according to some, but some Student-Athletes would begin picking the SEC school in the state, over the 'The' school, such as UT, or in this case, UNC/Duke/NCState..
Posted by Amp4LSU
West Monroe
Member since Sep 2006
347 posts
Posted on 9/2/11 at 10:22 am to
however, that whole 31,500 seat stadium they have, that's gonna be a huge hurdle for them. i think Alex Box may seat that many....lol.
Posted by BallHawk
Orlando
Member since Jul 2011
6052 posts
Posted on 9/2/11 at 10:32 am to
Haha true but they would be able that up pretty quick with the SEC yearly payouts.
Posted by RummelTiger
Official TD Sauces Club Member
Member since Aug 2004
93010 posts
Posted on 9/2/11 at 10:43 am to
quote:

What about Wake Forest?



Um, no.
Posted by packdaddy75
Member since May 2010
1222 posts
Posted on 9/2/11 at 10:45 am to
quote:

What about Wake Forest
Posted by GumBro Jackson
Raleigh
Member since Mar 2011
3141 posts
Posted on 9/2/11 at 10:55 am to
WF would not be my first choice, but I don't think it is a horrible idea.

The disadvantages are obvious: small school with a small fanbase and a low-profile sports program.

That being said, there are numerous advanatages: would expand the SEC footprint into North Carolina for both recruiting and television markets. They are an outstanding academic institution that would help the academic prestige of the SEC. It actually wouldn't be that bad to get another easy win for football. Vandy and Ole Miss need some company in the cellar and we don't need to keep adding killer programs that are going to make it significantly tougher for the Big Six to get their championships.

For the same reasons I think NC State makes more sense than Wake (plus they seem to "fit" better). Not sure Wake or NC State is more likely to leave (I assume UNC and Duke are complete pipe dreams b/c they are the heart and sould of the ACC).
Posted by BehindtheWoodshed
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
2433 posts
Posted on 9/2/11 at 10:56 am to
This is why I felt NC State would be a good addition. The Charlotte market is desirable and it makes sense geographically to have a school in North Carolina. Of course, UNC would be first choice, but you aren't getting them. They are the ACC IMO. Wake would be probably not be a good addition simply because they are a basketball school that sells their players on playing basketball in the ACC. Their hoops program would prolly take a MAJOR step down and I can't envision them every being a consistent football program.
Posted by BehindtheWoodshed
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
2433 posts
Posted on 9/2/11 at 10:57 am to
Great minds think alike
Posted by BallHawk
Orlando
Member since Jul 2011
6052 posts
Posted on 9/2/11 at 11:00 am to
I was thinking NC State originally. I just felt they were more tied to UNC than Wake was/is. I'd definitely take them. I think they are better suited for the SEC.

If we can get into the Charlotte market regardless I think it's a win-win.
This post was edited on 9/2/11 at 11:01 am
Posted by Hubbhogg
Our AD Sucks
Member since Dec 2010
13547 posts
Posted on 9/2/11 at 11:12 am to
Didn't even attempt to read but NO
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