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re: Legal question regarding the process
Posted on 8/27/11 at 12:25 pm to Godfather1
Posted on 8/27/11 at 12:25 pm to Godfather1
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I'm thinking this will be the case simply because any grand jury empaneled by the DA will likely be 100% comprised of LSU fans.
Not exactly true.
A grand jury is a group of people that are selected and sworn in by a court, just like jurors that are chosen to serve on a trial jury.
In fact, the grand jurors are usually chosen from the same pool of people that provide trial jurors: A judge selects and swears in a grand jury, just like judges select and swear in trial juries.
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Posted on 8/27/11 at 12:26 pm to just me
I want the quickest way possible for this shite to be over with. I want to see him at least get some back up duty by October. Maybe with a 1000% miracle chance, get on a practice squad somewhere.
Or maybe redshirt like others have indicated.
Or maybe redshirt like others have indicated.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 12:26 pm to Godfather1
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Being that it will be an EBRP grand jury, what exactly leads you to believe it won't be?
Southern fans who might or might not care about LSU? People who don't care about sports one way or another?
Just saying its possible.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 12:28 pm to MightierThePenIs
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They're in a regular crime lab cycle. Probably 10 days to 2 weeks.
Louisiana State Police crime lab. Right here in BR.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 12:29 pm to Godfather1
So the DA can push this case ahead of others that are in line to go before the Grand Jury? It doesn't have to fall into a que so to speak?
Posted on 8/27/11 at 12:29 pm to vjp819
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A grand jury is a group of people that are selected and sworn in by a court, just like jurors that are chosen to serve on a trial jury. In fact, the grand jurors are usually chosen from the same pool of people that provide trial jurors: A judge selects and swears in a grand jury, just like judges select and swear in trial juries.
I understand all that.
I just believe that if they use the fact of being an LSU fan as an exclusionary measure, they're going to have a hard time empaneling a grand jury in EBRP.
JMHO.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 12:29 pm to LSURussian
The EBR district attorney, Hillar Moore, said on
And then what happens? JJ & JJ done with suspension?
And I'm also of the thinking that this grand jury will be at LEAST 50% LSU fans ... or people who've heard about all this.
How many people are on a grand jury anyway? And how do they decide true bill or no if stories are so different?
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Friday he is presenting the case to a grand jury. So a majority of the grand jury members must agree there is enough evidence to convict the players and to put them on trial.
I don't think a grand jury will issue such an indictment and the charges will be dropped.
And then what happens? JJ & JJ done with suspension?
And I'm also of the thinking that this grand jury will be at LEAST 50% LSU fans ... or people who've heard about all this.
How many people are on a grand jury anyway? And how do they decide true bill or no if stories are so different?
Posted on 8/27/11 at 12:32 pm to Godfather1
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they're going to have a hard time empaneling a grand jury in EBRP.
I was under the impression that a GRAND JURY is on the grand jury for a year or so (some extended length of time). I worked with a girl (nurse) in BR who had to be scheduled off every Wednesday (I think it was) for Grand Jury purposes. I don't think that she ended up HAVING to go every Wednesday as there wasn't always a case to be brought before them.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 12:32 pm to Godfather1
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I just believe that if they use the fact of being an LSU fan as an exclusionary measure, they're going to have a hard time empaneling a grand jury in EBRP.
A grand jury can serve 6 months to 1 year. Up to 3 years. So chances are they are already in place.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 12:37 pm to vjp819
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A grand jury can serve 6 months to 1 year. Up to 3 years. So chances are they are already in place.
Well, I guess we'll see then.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 12:56 pm to vjp819
If it goes to trial, will it be a jury trial or bench trial?
Posted on 8/27/11 at 1:04 pm to chity
I have a question, all the talk is that JJ was arrested on the charge of second degree battery for allegedly kicking Lowery in the head. Second degree battery is when you cause broken bones or you knock someone out. The kick was to Andrew Lowery and he has no broken bones and you can see from the fight video that the kick did not knock him out, he got up right after the kick. How can they be charging JJ for second degree battery if the kick did not break any bones on Lowery and it did not knock him out? This does not make sense at all, if anything the charge should be simple battery it would seem. Anyone that can provide some insight on this would be greatly appreciated.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 1:08 pm to texastigerr
I saw the word Process and was hoping to read about Nick Saban. Carry on.
I will now take cover from all flaming arrows and pig carcasses.
I will now take cover from all flaming arrows and pig carcasses.
Posted on 8/31/11 at 3:58 pm to Cool Hand Mike
Anyone know how long it takes the Grand Jury to convene? Could it be months from now or relatively soon?
Posted on 8/31/11 at 4:00 pm to texastigerr
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Is it possible that evidence between now and a grand jury or trial (not sure how that works)such as a witness or something could come forward and present itself that would allow for charges against JJ and Johns to be dropped or has that shipped sailed?
Of course. So what did you see?
Posted on 8/31/11 at 4:03 pm to LSUTIGER1970
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How can they be charging JJ for second degree battery if the kick did not break any bones on Lowery and it did not knock him out?
Lowery was knocked unconscious and had a fractured jaw bone.
Posted on 8/31/11 at 4:29 pm to TigerKnights
The mere fact that the DA is going with a grand jury lends credence to those who have pointed out the flimsy nature of the evidence pinpointing JJ. If there was enough direct evidence pointing to JJ as the kicker the DA would have likely gone ahead and indicted him.
It seems that Moore wants to play both sides here. On the one hand, he can say he was tough on a football player, so non-sports fans can be appeased, but now has an out by handing over the case to a grand jury that may or may not indict JJ. If the grand jury doesn't find enough evidence, Moore still comes out clean because he didn't choose not to indict.
In short, it is a shrewd move by the DA... Our AD hasn't made a shrewd move since his Duke days, but that is another matter.
It seems that Moore wants to play both sides here. On the one hand, he can say he was tough on a football player, so non-sports fans can be appeased, but now has an out by handing over the case to a grand jury that may or may not indict JJ. If the grand jury doesn't find enough evidence, Moore still comes out clean because he didn't choose not to indict.
In short, it is a shrewd move by the DA... Our AD hasn't made a shrewd move since his Duke days, but that is another matter.
Posted on 8/31/11 at 4:34 pm to TigerKnights
BRPD still has not filed neither the arrest warrants nor the search warrants with the clerks office! Why is thus??? Because the second they do, it becomes public knowledge and it is shotty police work!! How is knocked out, then drives himself around for awhile, then onto the hospital. And the second he told the cop he was knocked out, then they should have called EMT's to have him checked out and taken to the hospital.
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