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Now that the dust has settled, let's get something straight...

Posted on 8/26/11 at 3:41 pm
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 8/26/11 at 3:41 pm
This situation doesn't help shite. Now that the congratulatory circle-jerk is over, it's time to face the reality that this is a sad day for the Tigers. The team can/may pull together and have a phenomenal season (as I hope they do), but that will be in spite of this fall's events, not because of them. JJ and Shep were very popular with the team (don't know anything about JJ2), and the team did not receive their suspensions with with the same thinly-veiled elation that some of our fans put on display earlier.

We're now down to one experienced QB who may well surprise, but hasn't been able to take the top spot in three years.

An offensive plan that was likely built around a certain type of quarterback (or combination of QBs) will have to be re-worked in fairly short order.

God help us if Mett gets into anything this season; let's not act as though that's out of the question.

This was likely a body-blow to many players on the team, as well as the CLM.

There's nothing to celebrate. I'll be pulling for Jarrett as hard as anyone, but him getting "the start" will not make up for what we've lost in the process.

ETA: Shep obviously wasn't arrested and won't be gone for the season.
This post was edited on 8/26/11 at 3:46 pm
Posted by TigerNlc
Chocolate City
Member since Jun 2006
32513 posts
Posted on 8/26/11 at 3:43 pm to
Shep isn't out for the season huh?
Posted by Camp Randall
The Shadow of the Valley of Death
Member since Nov 2005
15605 posts
Posted on 8/26/11 at 3:44 pm to
quote:

congratulatory circle-jerk


Anyone celebrating this is low life loser with no perspective.
Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
10669 posts
Posted on 8/26/11 at 3:52 pm to
Based on EVERYTHING that has happened in the last month.....I think 8-4 is very likely and 6-6 is a possibility.
Posted by LSUballs
RayVegas LA
Member since Feb 2008
37845 posts
Posted on 8/26/11 at 3:53 pm to
This shite never happened when Richard Murphy was here.. Just sayin....
Posted by filmmaker45
Member since Mar 2008
14554 posts
Posted on 8/26/11 at 3:56 pm to
This is a great day.
Posted by kwtiger70
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
830 posts
Posted on 8/26/11 at 4:10 pm to
This has been a tough week to be a Tiger fan, unbelievable what has happened the last few days. I am truly sorry for both JJ's as I am for the "victims" in this case. I have read many things that make me think that all is not as it seems in this case, but that won't do these young men any good. They have ruined their careers and good names. Very sad. The fact remains, the players who respected curfew and were in there beds are still on the team and not facing problems. It's hard to get in bar fights if you don't go out to the bars.


I hope this team has the leaders who will get it back on track. I believe Coach Miles is that type of coach. None of this should have happened.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124216 posts
Posted on 8/26/11 at 4:12 pm to
quote:

This was likely a body-blow to many players on the team, as well as the CLM.
quote:

There's nothing to celebrate. I'll be pulling for Jarrett as hard as anyone, but him getting "the start" will not make up for what we've lost in the process.
Posted by nolatig
new orleans
Member since Aug 2011
46 posts
Posted on 8/26/11 at 4:18 pm to
It is a sad day. No joy here, but he made a series of poor decisions as team leader and now is paying an extreme price. Glad this part is over
Posted by Mindenfan
Minden
Member since Sep 2006
4790 posts
Posted on 8/26/11 at 4:21 pm to
Next Saturday, I'll be fine but right now, I'm bummed. Hope the team rises above all this crap.
Posted by GregMaddux
LSU Fan
Member since Jun 2011
18218 posts
Posted on 8/26/11 at 4:22 pm to
quote:

this is a sad day for the



I heard your press conference on the radio earlier sgt stone
Posted by just me
Front of the Class: Schooling You
Member since Mar 2006
34489 posts
Posted on 8/26/11 at 5:37 pm to
Lee is not a piece of shite. He has skills. He has tools. He's a fifth year senior. He seems adept at quick passes. If the line can give the QB time this year, Lee has the arm to make a defense pay. The rest of the team should be good enough to help even a fairly mediocre QB win the game.

But you're right that losing an experienced QB hurts.

I don't think anyone would be excited if we lost Lee. Losing Jefferson is at least as bad as losing Lee would have been.

LSU QBs haven't made it through an entire season in years.

Let's hope that Lee plays well and stays healthy.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261766 posts
Posted on 8/26/11 at 5:47 pm to
quote:


There's nothing to celebrate. I'll be pulling for Jarrett as hard as anyone, but him getting "the start" will not make up for what we've lost in the process.



I certainly have no clue what you are trying to say here. Are you a historically anti Lee/Pro JJ guy?

None of us have a clue what is happening, what will happen or what should happen. Lets just enjoy the ride that starts in a week.
Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
13522 posts
Posted on 8/26/11 at 5:50 pm to
Well, you can choose to drown in the sorrows of what happened, or you can join in and move forward.

Because no matter how sad of a day this may/may not be, this team has a game to play a week from tomorrow.

And let's get something straight: Oregon- like the Honey Badger- don't give a shite.

Out team will be focused on those facts. So should we.
Posted by ottothewise
Member since Sep 2008
32094 posts
Posted on 8/26/11 at 5:52 pm to
the fight was an unintended consequence of breaking team rules.

the team rules appear to be 'better' than the team would have thought, two weeks ago.

its a terrible black eye for the school and for Miles.

If the team loses to Oregon, it will give life to a new level of crap we have to read about and hear about. I think everyone associated with LSU hopes the O-line gives JL time and he rips Oregon a new one.

If not, we will hear about this fight for the rest of the season and probably a year or two more.


This post was edited on 8/26/11 at 5:53 pm
Posted by ianfson1
Houston
Member since Aug 2009
891 posts
Posted on 8/26/11 at 6:05 pm to
quote:

This situation doesn't help shite. Now that the congratulatory circle-jerk is over, it's time to face the reality that this is a sad day for the Tigers. The team can/may pull together and have a phenomenal season (as I hope they do), but that will be in spite of this fall's events, not because of them. JJ and Shep were very popular with the team (don't know anything about JJ2), and the team did not receive their suspensions with with the same thinly-veiled elation that some of our fans put on display earlier.

We're now down to one experienced QB who may well surprise, but hasn't been able to take the top spot in three years.

An offensive plan that was likely built around a certain type of quarterback (or combination of QBs) will have to be re-worked in fairly short order.

God help us if Mett gets into anything this season; let's not act as though that's out of the question.

This was likely a body-blow to many players on the team, as well as the CLM.

There's nothing to celebrate. I'll be pulling for Jarrett as hard as anyone, but him getting "the start" will not make up for what we've lost in the process.

ETA: Shep obviously wasn't arrested and won't be gone for the season.




While I agree with most of what you have to say here, I don't see the point in beating ourselves up about it. It is now our reality and one that doesn't call for driving the bus off the cliff.

Try to enjoy this team---its what we've got.
Posted by Springlake Tiger
Uptown
Member since Aug 2006
15531 posts
Posted on 8/26/11 at 7:38 pm to
First off, I feel for JJ as a human being. He must be miserable at this time as is his family.

As a football player, he really didn't bring much to the table. Not a strong leader based on watching him on the sideline and on the field. Maybe the worst passer in Division 1 football. An above average runner as a QB but not a great running QB by any means. I just don't see what the team will be missing by him not being on the team.

As far as Josh Johns, his only hope of seing the field was on Special Teams.

I don't think LSUs record will be altered based on today's events.

You also mentioned Russell Shepard, he too has shown very little. Jarvis Landry (if he isn't suspended) and Odell Beckham are better than Shepard right now.

Posted by The Dude
Van by the river
Member since Sep 2004
2027 posts
Posted on 8/26/11 at 7:50 pm to
Think about UNC last year. Started the season without half the team starters and finished 8 and 5.

We're in a much better position than they were last year. There are players that would not have played and will get a chance. You think they'll make the most of it.

Hell yes.

If you've followed LSU football for any length of time, you should realize that the improbable is possible.

So much for my positive take on the situation.
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