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Top 10 MLB teams ever
Posted on 7/1/11 at 6:58 am
Posted on 7/1/11 at 6:58 am
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Posted on 7/1/11 at 7:06 am to LSUTANGERINE
So half the list are Yankees teams...I'll allow it 
Posted on 7/1/11 at 7:52 am to LSUTANGERINE
95 BRAVES FTW
Posted on 7/1/11 at 7:52 am to LSUTANGERINE
The Reds won the 1975 Worled Series because Jim "Catfish" Hunter was allowed free agency and left the Oakland A's to sign with the Yankees. The A's were loaded with players just hitting their prime, but without their ace, Hunter, they did not match up well with Boston in the ALCS. Their number one and two starters, Ken Holtzman and Vida Blue were both lefthanders.
You don't win three World Series between two of the supposed best teams ever, 1970 Orioles and 1975 Reds, without being damn strong for an extended period.
You don't win three World Series between two of the supposed best teams ever, 1970 Orioles and 1975 Reds, without being damn strong for an extended period.
Posted on 7/1/11 at 7:53 am to RunningHeel
NO 1984 Tigers???? 
Posted on 7/1/11 at 8:16 am to dukke v
1998 Yankees are my personal favorite.
Posted on 7/1/11 at 8:17 am to RunningHeel
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So half the list are Yankees teams...I'll allow it
Well we have WON more CHAMPIONSHIPS than anyone else so it's only more than fair.
Posted on 7/1/11 at 8:22 am to BMW7SERIES
1961 Yankees were overrated. They did one thing really well: Hit homeruns. And that was more than enough to dominate a really weak American League at that time.
Posted on 7/1/11 at 8:27 am to Bench McElroy
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1961 Yankees were overrated. They did one thing really well: Hit homeruns. And that was more than enough to dominate a really weak American League at that time.
Not their fault, you play the teams on your sched as they are. And if the league is weak a dominant team should dominate. So no, not overrated.
Posted on 7/1/11 at 8:40 am to BMW7SERIES
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Not their fault, you play the teams on your sched as they are. And if the league is weak a dominant team should dominate. So no, not overrated.
I probably shouldn't have used the word dominant to describe that team. Yes they won 109 games but they didn't lead the American League in a single major pitching category. And the few offensive categories they led the AL in (homeruns, slugging percentage, total bases) were directly tied to their ability to hit a lot of homeruns thanks in no small part to Mantle and Maris combining for 115 homeruns that year. They were fourth in the AL in batting average, 5th in on-base percentage, 9th in walks despite Mantle and Maris combining for 220 walks, I guess that's what happens when only one other player in the lineup is able to draw as many 40 walks and didn't even lead their league in runs scored. This is not an all-time great team if you go by traditional stats or advanced stats or any stat.
This post was edited on 7/1/11 at 9:05 am
Posted on 7/1/11 at 8:44 am to Bench McElroy
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This is not an all-time great team if you go by traditional stats or advanced stats or any stat.
I agree with this. And if the Tigers could have musterd just a little more offense that year they may have overtaken the Yanks. They also won 100 games that year.
Posted on 7/1/11 at 8:45 am to Bench McElroy
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I probably shouldn't have used the word dominant to describe that team. Yes they won 109 games but they didn't lead the American League in a single major pitching category. And the few offensive categories they led the AL in (homeruns, slugging percentage, total bases) were directly tied to their ability to hit a lot of homeruns thanks in no small part to Mantle and Maris combining for 115 homeruns that year. They were fourth in the AL in batting average, 5th in on-base percentage, 9th in walks despite Mantle and Maris combining for 220 walks, I guess that's what happens when only one player in the lineup is able to draw as many 40 walks and didn't even lead their league in runs scored. This is not an all-time great team if you go by traditional stats or advanced stats or any stat.
My GOD how did they ever win if they were that bad. Must've won the WC that year or something.
Posted on 7/1/11 at 8:47 am to LSUTANGERINE
God...
Look how OLD the '27 Yankees look!
It's like an incredibly awesome over 40 team.
Look how OLD the '27 Yankees look!
It's like an incredibly awesome over 40 team.
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Posted on 7/1/11 at 8:51 am to BMW7SERIES
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My GOD how did they ever win if they were that bad. Must've won the WC that year or something.
I never said they were bad. But when comparing them to the GREATEST teams in MLB history, they don't measure up. I have higher standards for that than simply winning a lot of games. An all-time great team should dominate their league and find more ways to win than simply bashing a lot of homeruns and having two players playing at a ridiculously higher level than the rest of the league.
Posted on 7/1/11 at 9:08 am to Pilot Tiger
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95 BRAVES FTW
I know they were the only one that won the WS, but was this even the best Braves team during their run? I know Smoltz really stepped up his game in '96 and won the Cy Young to make that possibly the greatest 1,2,3 in history, but I can't remember the offenses of any of those specific years. They all bleed together.
But '93 is the year that stands out to me, and they didn't even make the World Series that year. But they had just gotten Maddux who won his 2nd straight Cy Young, Glavine won 22, Smoltz won 15, and freaking Steve Avery won 18. Not to mention they picked up Fred McGriff before the deadline who went crazy during the 2nd half. And according to wiki, the Braves went 51-19 after the trade. (.729 winning % over the last 70 games
) How did that group not win? Goddamn you, Phillies. By the way, I went to 2 games in Fulton-County Stadium in the NLCS that year, and it was one of the greatest sporting events of my life. The only thing that can come close to rivaling a huge LSU game. They get shite on now, but those early 90s Braves fans were awesome. Tamahawk chops for 9 innings straight.
Posted on 7/1/11 at 9:16 am to Bench McElroy
Id put 2001 Mariners in that group
I mean, baseball is the ultimate sport where a large sample size is probably the truest indication of how great a team actually is. They won 116 games in the regular season, had a great offense(hit for avg and power) and good pitching.
I mean, baseball is the ultimate sport where a large sample size is probably the truest indication of how great a team actually is. They won 116 games in the regular season, had a great offense(hit for avg and power) and good pitching.
Posted on 7/1/11 at 9:32 am to Hot Carl
1998 Braves was actually probably the best Braves team during the '90s. They had five pitchers win 16+ games and it was the ONLY Braves team during the '90s to have a team OPS+ above 100. I really want to sing the praises of John Schuerholz because he'a a Baltimore guy but he's one of the more overrated GMs in the last 20, 30 years. He actually didn't have much to do with the Braves dominant run during the '90s. Glavine and Smoltz were already there by the time Schuerholz took over and both pitchers were acquired by Bobby Cox. And Schuerholz signed Greg Maddux because the Braves were flush with cash thanks to Ted Turner. The Braves had an above average offensive team only twice during that entire 1991-2005 run and they were always shut down in the postseason so Schuerholz failed to put together an offensive lineup that could carry the load when the Braves pitching was any less than great which was rare in the regular season but much more common in the postseason. Also, the Braves bullpen always shite the bed in the postseason and they could never find a closer outside of a couple years with Wohlers and Smoltz. Really, the only things he deserve credit for is signing Andruw Jones, drafting Chipper Jones (which was a no-brainer) and making some savvy trades. A lot of GMs could have won a ton of division titles with his situation.
Posted on 7/1/11 at 9:42 am to Pilot Tiger
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Id put 2001 Mariners in that group
I mean, baseball is the ultimate sport where a large sample size is probably the truest indication of how great a team actually is. They won 116 games in the regular season, had a great offense(hit for avg and power) and good pitching.
You couldn't be more correct. That's why having any more than four teams making the postseason is a terrible idea. You'll have 85 win teams winning the world series every year if the postseason was like the NBA or even the NFL. There have been all-time great teams that were top 10 teams of all-time but failed to win it all because they went through a slump at the worst possible time. 1906 Cubs are the best example of this. Former Orioles players will tell that their '69 team was clearly better than their '70 WS team but they had one bad week against the Mets and that's all she wrote. 1931 Philadelphia Athletics and 1954 Cleveland Indians are two other good examples of this.
Posted on 7/1/11 at 12:05 pm to Pilot Tiger
Not sure I agree, but what that team over the course of the year was insane. The best team in baseball right now has 31 losses, that Mariners team didn't lose their 31st game until August 5th.
Posted on 7/1/11 at 12:14 pm to floridatigah
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Not sure I agree, but what that team over the course of the year was insane. The best team in baseball right now has 31 losses, that Mariners team didn't lose their 31st game until August 5th.
And it's not like their division was a cakewalk either. Oakland was absolutely stacked with Jason Giambi, Tejada, Eric Chavez, Jermaine Dye, Johnny Damon and a great rotation with Hudson, Mulder and Zito. The Angels were 12 games over .500 against teams outside of the AL West and had a lot of the same players that would win them a World Series a year later. Texas was a game over .500 against teams outside of the AL West and had prime A-Rod, Pudge, Raffy Palmeiro and Michael Young. It was a year when the stars were truly aligned for the Mariners. It seemed like every pitcher on their staff had a career year.
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