Is there a better scope than this?

Schmidt and Bender

Zeiss

Have comparable scopes but it is damn hard to beat a top end Swarovski.

My Simmons 44 mag scope on my .06 has yet to miss. So, for the price I paid, Mine is better.

its either the Swar. or Zeiss for my next scope. Mid range, what is better/ better for the $?

If it's better than my Leupold Mark IV it's beyond the ability of my eyes to appreciate it.

I'm sure they are nice scopes, but there are so many things I can spend that money on. I'm not shooting anything from a half-mile away anyways.

If hunting is important to you, and you have the money to spend on it, I'm all for it. I actually like Leica a lot...

No matter what you buy there is always something better.

I learned one thing the hard way:

Never look through a scope you can't afford.

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Nightforce

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I am liking these.

ONe thing everyone needs to understand is this. There are two different kinds of people on here. One kind is gonna be fine with an off the shelf rifle, factory ammo and a mid range scope. They will kill anything and everything the rest of us do. There is nothing wrong with this AT ALL. It's probably the best way to approach hunting. Then you have the rest of us. We buy rifles capable of shooting a mile with optics that out see what the rifle can shoot. We reload ammo that ends up costing twice what factory premium ammo costs. We do it because we cant stand "good enough". I am just getting into that group. Mostly because I am just getting to the point i can afford it somewhat (and thats debatable).

Only issue I ever had with my Simmons is that I'd like it to pull in more light. My dad bought a nikon buckmaster and I really like it, I'll probably get one for my gun eventually. But I can't justify spending much more than that on a scope.