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The BCS has been undeniably kind to LSU
Posted on 5/29/11 at 1:47 am
Posted on 5/29/11 at 1:47 am
So speaking only as an LSU fan, and not some obnoxious self-professed "purist" who has a "love for the game" that makes you advocate a playoff, how could any LSU fan be against the BCS? LSU has arguably benefited the most from the Bowl Championship Series. It WORKS for schools like LSU, UF, OSU, USC, etc. And that's why it will never change (barring bullshite government intervention).
So, as LSU fans, can anyone make a legitimate argument against the BCS?
So, as LSU fans, can anyone make a legitimate argument against the BCS?
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Posted on 5/29/11 at 1:52 am to PRK
Just because it's been generous to us doesn't mean it's the best system. If we had a playoff then maybe Auburn in 2004 would gave had a shot (they went 14-0), or in 2003, USC and LSU could have settled everything on the field.
Posted on 5/29/11 at 1:55 am to PRK
from a LSU perspective very good for us.
Im a fan of the bcs in general even if it had never done anything positive or negative to LSU.
In most years in football only 2-4 teams really deserve a shot at the nc. the midmajors dont unless they play 4 major schools and even then they are iffy since major schools generally play 8-10 major schools in a year. also bcs makes the regular season mean something and as far as im concerned you dont really get fricked over unless you go undefeated from a major conf and get left out. That has only happened once in the whole time. If you dont win all your games you have no right to be upset if you get fricked by the system because you didn't really get fricked by anyone but yourself because you lost a game.
all the years of the bcs and only auburn has done everything in its power to make a bcs champ game and been left out.
the only option and be ok with is a plus 1.
Im a fan of the bcs in general even if it had never done anything positive or negative to LSU.
In most years in football only 2-4 teams really deserve a shot at the nc. the midmajors dont unless they play 4 major schools and even then they are iffy since major schools generally play 8-10 major schools in a year. also bcs makes the regular season mean something and as far as im concerned you dont really get fricked over unless you go undefeated from a major conf and get left out. That has only happened once in the whole time. If you dont win all your games you have no right to be upset if you get fricked by the system because you didn't really get fricked by anyone but yourself because you lost a game.
all the years of the bcs and only auburn has done everything in its power to make a bcs champ game and been left out.
the only option and be ok with is a plus 1.
Posted on 5/29/11 at 4:38 am to PRK
the BCS is much better than it used to be. think about how many NC's alabama claims. it's disgusting that when any obscure magazine with a regional base could name them NC and they would claim it. Now only USC trys that crap. oh, they use the AP, that's right. 
Posted on 5/29/11 at 5:35 am to PRK
If there had been a playoff in 2006 I am convinced that LSU would have won the National Championship.
Posted on 5/29/11 at 7:30 am to PRK
I think the BCS sorts it all out just fine. Even with a playoff the AP could still name their own champ so a playoff does not guarantee there won't be a co natl champ. As long A's there's more than one poll it can happen.
BCS FTW
BCS FTW
Posted on 5/29/11 at 8:22 am to PRK
No doubt....but I think Oklahoma has benefitted even more than LSU in making championship games (not that they win them when they get there). 2003, 2004, 2008 (thanks in part to the Big 12 denying Texas the opportunity) 
Posted on 5/29/11 at 10:31 am to PRK
If West Virgina beats Pittsburgh in 2007...
If Oklahoma puts the beat down on Kansas St., versus the other way around, in Big 12 Championship in 2003...
If, if, if...
I like computers. I like football. I like football outcomes that result from the football field...not computer algorhythms.
If Oklahoma puts the beat down on Kansas St., versus the other way around, in Big 12 Championship in 2003...
If, if, if...
I like computers. I like football. I like football outcomes that result from the football field...not computer algorhythms.
Posted on 5/29/11 at 11:50 am to PRK
Either system benefits lsu. Why? Because they are a top program. With a playoff in 06 or 10 we could have ran the table. The only team that i saw in the bowl games that would have beat us was stanford. It is possible we could have squeeked out wins against an arkansas or an auburn if we met them again.
Posted on 5/29/11 at 11:55 am to PRK
I've never thought that a playoff necessarily produces the "best" team. I can't help but remember the year when the Patriots had a perfect season going into the Super Bowl, only to lose in the closing moments of the Super Bowl to the Giants team that they had already beaten during the end of the regular season.
In my mind, that doesn't make the Giants the best team in the NFL that year. It just means that the Patriots had the bad fortune of beating the Giants on the wrong Sunday and for almost (but not quite) all of the last Sunday. I still say the Patriots were the best team in the NFL that year, regardless of what happened in the last minute of the Super Bowl.
In my mind, that doesn't make the Giants the best team in the NFL that year. It just means that the Patriots had the bad fortune of beating the Giants on the wrong Sunday and for almost (but not quite) all of the last Sunday. I still say the Patriots were the best team in the NFL that year, regardless of what happened in the last minute of the Super Bowl.
Posted on 5/29/11 at 12:42 pm to PRK
...so, PRK ...your reasoning is , that if something/anything "is good for you" regardless if it is not so good or even bad for others - then it must be good - and you can have no legit argument - against what is "good for you" ? Pretty self-centered I would say. Logic FAIL big time. 
Posted on 5/29/11 at 12:54 pm to PRK
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So, as LSU fans, can anyone make a legitimate argument against the BCS?
I can. If FCS-style playoffs would have been in place, LSU might have won additional championships in 2006 and 2010. Certainly the possibility for an All-SEC title game would have been there for several years.
In addition, those championships would have been NCAA championships, not mythical national titles as they are today.
Remember, in FCS-style playoffs, the lower-seeded team travels to the venue of the higher-seeded team. Only the championship game is played at a neutral site.
From a fan standpoint, FCS-style playoffs would give us access to otherwise completely unavailable and/or improbable matchups:
LSU vs Oregon in Tiger Stadium or at Autzen Stadium
LSU vs Ohio State in Tiger Stadium or at Ohio Stadium
LSU vs Florida State in Tiger Stadium or at Doak Campbell Stadium
LSU vs Oklahoma in Tiger Stadium or at Memorial Stadium
Just to name a few. These are possible playoff opponents, in addition to the opponents on the schedule for any given year.
There is nothing the BCS or a limited plus one type playoff could offer that would match the sheer excitement...and the money generated...by switching from the BCS to FCS-style playoffs.
The FCS playoffs have been a huge success, crowning champions with no controversy for many years and generating money for all involved. Any counter arguments that current BCS schools could not only replicate but exceed the success of the smaller schools are ludicrous.
Playoffs please!
Posted on 5/29/11 at 12:56 pm to PRK
After reading all the responses I think it's safe to say that there are negative sides to both the current bcs and any kind of playoff format. And since both systems have flaws, why change from one to the other just for the sake of changing? What if there were some minor changes that could be made to the current bcs system that may have a larger impact overall? For example, only one of the six computer rankings reveals its formula to the public. Last year there was and error in that one public computer ranking that when corrected changed the final bcs rankings. LSU and Boise St. flip flopped at 10 and 11 spots. What if the other 5 computer rankings made similar mistakes in their respective formulas? how much could it have changed the rankings and how many times has this happened over the years? How about making all the computer rankings available to the public? That's a change to the bcs I would like to see made immediately.
Posted on 5/29/11 at 5:32 pm to PRK
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So, as LSU fans, can anyone make a legitimate argument against the BCS?no...but what about the AP in 2003? sounded like the BCS had a set of balls and nothing else when it came to it
Posted on 5/29/11 at 6:58 pm to PRK
A playoff allows teams to sandbag on a given game, much like the pros. The BCS means EVERY game is life and death if you want to win it all at the end. I prefer the latter.
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