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Posted on 4/19/11 at 9:35 pm to Mike Linebacker
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JJ is the worst LSU QB in at least 25 years. Marcus Randall laughs at him.
At first I was like:
But then I was like:
Posted on 4/19/11 at 9:40 pm to doogles02
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Yeah Peach Bowl, Cap1 was Saban's last year here and Flynn was a freshman and did not receive playing time.
Flynn actually did play in the Cap 1 as a freshman, he came in before Jamarcus.
I think he was bringing up the Peach as a time Flynn started and played well. he wasn't that huge of a concern going into 07.
Posted on 4/19/11 at 9:46 pm to bencoleman
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That jefferson as a game manager got me. Jefferson is not and will not ever be a game manager. Mett is better right now than either of the other two. This D-1 crap is getting tiresome. You guys act like Mett is some guy straight out of high school. You know this isnt the case.
I agree, if he was a game manager we would have been undefeated last year. He is what I would refer to as a "game mis-manager". (Yes that's cheesy)
And you'll have to excuse them about Mett, they heard someone else use the argument in one of the 1,000 threads on the topic and can not come up with anything else to say but "he has not taken a D1 snap".
I do however think that Miles will start JJ unless Mett is just leaps and bounds ahead of him in fall practice but I certainly would feel more comfortable giving someone new a chance. I don't think these people realize, but what do we have to lose besides half-arse mediocre play from JJ?
Yes I understand we have a chance to go undefeated and you will probably argue that we have that to lose by playing Mett, but come on your delusional if you really think the QB play could be any worse if we played Mett?
And yes he's a savior to me or any of the other QBs, if they can just be an average to slightly above-average QB in the SEC.
I would just like to see someone new get a chance, doesn't have to Mett. I would even be okay with one of the other 2 new guys getting a chance but Mett clearly has more experience than those 2.
Posted on 4/19/11 at 9:50 pm to ATLTiger
You're right, I believe he did play one or two series in that game
Posted on 4/19/11 at 9:52 pm to doogles02
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He is what I would refer to as a "game mis-manager".
This is obvious when he doesn't know what to do at the end of games. Blame Les all you want but as much qb as JJ has played you would think he'd know this stuff in his sleep
Posted on 4/19/11 at 9:57 pm to Jaydeaux
Thank You, exactly.... If you're the so-called leader you should take control and want to be in those situations to have a chance to win at the end of game.
Posted on 4/19/11 at 10:02 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Greg McElroy, a fairly average QB threw for over 2,500 yds his first year as a starter.
McElroy came to Bama in 06, played in 07 and 08, and started in 09.
That's pretty different from coming to LSU in 2011 and starting in 2011. imo
Posted on 4/19/11 at 10:06 pm to Lonnie4LSU
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McElroy came to Bama in 06, played in 07 and 08, and started in 09.
That's pretty different from coming to LSU in 2011 and starting in 2011. imo
I think McElroy had about 40 attempts prior to starting, most in garbage time.
Posted on 4/19/11 at 10:28 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Divide by 2 and you have the correct number...
I think McElroy had about 40 attempts prior to starting, most in garbage time.
Posted on 4/19/11 at 10:30 pm to tduecen
What does Darron Thomas count as.... 33 attempts as a true freshman, red-shirted in 2009, and then led Oregon to a Championship game in 2010
Posted on 4/19/11 at 10:36 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Do you think over a stretch of 12 games he could throw more than 4 td's? Or over a stretch of 11 games, he could throw more than 2?
This is stated perfectly, nearly any other qb in the country could put up similar or better numbers than JJ.
You would be hard pressed to find a qb that would put up lesser numbers.
Posted on 4/19/11 at 10:50 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I think McElroy had about 40 attempts prior to starting, most in garbage time.
Perhaps true, but that doesn't negate the fact McElroy had 3 years to practice, watch, learn, and taste live fire before he was thrown into it and asked to win at the highest level college football has to offer.
Posted on 4/19/11 at 10:58 pm to Lonnie4LSU
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Perhaps true, but that doesn't negate the fact McElroy had 3 years to practice, watch, learn, and taste live fire before he was thrown into it and asked to win at the highest level college football has to offer.
And Mettenberger has been sitting on his arse? He has a lot more experience than McElroy had and less talent to work with as well. Mettenberger also spent a year at UGA.
You folks will cherry pick everything you can to validate your beliefs. I think if you look realistically you will find a QB who is experienced and has spent a year at a major program.
Also, a QB that didn't suffer through the awful QB coaching that the two incumbents have been through.
This post was edited on 4/19/11 at 11:01 pm
Posted on 4/20/11 at 1:26 am to RogerTheShrubber
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This post was edited on 4/20/11 at 2:22 am
Posted on 4/20/11 at 1:37 am to Lonnie4LSU
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Does his practice time at Ga count for something...sure, but that and one Juco year pale in comparison to 3 full seasons at Bama practicing against the best college football has to offer and being coached by a NC staff. imo
Since we really have no idea how much competitive practice either got in their years at Alabama and UGA, respectively, this is nothing but speculation.
Posted on 4/20/11 at 2:20 am to RogerTheShrubber
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I think if you look realistically you will find a QB who is experienced
All do respect to Juco ball and Mett, but McElroy faced better talent in one of his fall camps at Bama than Mett faced in his whole run in Juco ball and that doesn't even bring up the coaching Mett got last season compared to what McElroy got at Bama for 3 years before he started his 1st game.
Does his practice time at Ga count for something...sure, but that and one Juco year pale in comparison to 3 full seasons at Bama practicing against the best college football has to offer and being coached by a NC staff. imo
And this has nothing to do with LSU or other LSU QB's. The only belief I have is I don't think we can use McElroy and Mett as like situations.
If that makes me a member of some "you folks" club, so be it.
Posted on 4/20/11 at 2:30 am to Lonnie4LSU
McElroy spent two years in Bama's system, not three...before starting.
My guess is Mettenberger will be a better passer than McElroy. You may think it's impossible for Mettenberger to have a solid first year at LSU, but I don't. Hopefully he can have a solid contribution this year.
My guess is Mettenberger will be a better passer than McElroy. You may think it's impossible for Mettenberger to have a solid first year at LSU, but I don't. Hopefully he can have a solid contribution this year.
Posted on 4/20/11 at 2:36 am to doogles02
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Yes I understand we have a chance to go undefeated and you will probably argue that we have that to lose by playing Mett, but come on your delusional if you really think the QB play could be any worse if we played Mett?
You can look at what it could do for the team as a whole. 08 was a disaster. Players did lose confidence. We had a new qb and things didnt go well at all. I dont believe some bs about players not liking JJ. He was the starter for 2 years now and has worked with these players. Hes going to start, and if he doesnt then it will be because Mett is that much better and then we wont have a problem.
Posted on 4/20/11 at 5:12 am to Hulkklogan
quote:It's really easy to play the result.
Comparing Cam and Mett is laughable.
Just because someone is a #1 JUCO prospect does not mean they're the next Cam Newton. Cam is a once in a decade (or longer) type of player
You, or anyone else for that matter, would have never made that post before last football season.
Obviously, the odds of any player playing as well as Newton are slim, but comparing Mett now to Newton talent wise before last season is an extremely reasonable comparison(just different types of talent obviously). Newton did have more experience, but didn't exactly take a lot of meaningful snaps throwing the ball.
Mett could very well step in and be the best QB in the SEC and a top 5 or 10 QB in the nation. Maybe he won't, but it's not at all out of the realm of possibility.
This post was edited on 4/20/11 at 5:16 am
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