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re: Gold Fish?????

Posted on 4/19/11 at 9:28 am to
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57572 posts
Posted on 4/19/11 at 9:28 am to
quote:

Prohibited Freshwater Fish

No person may possess or sell in
this state the following fishes: all species
of piranha, tilapia and carp (except
koi or common carp (Cyprinus carpio)
and goldfish (Carassius auratus)); Rio
Grand Cichlid; freshwater electric eel
(Electrophorus sp.); rudd (Scardinius
erythrophthalmus); all members of the
families Synbranchidae (Asian swamp
eels), Channidae (snakeheads),
Clariidae (walking catfishes), and
Trichomycteridae (pencil catfishes).
No fish of any species from outside
the state shall be liberated within the
state except upon written permission of
the Secretary.
No fish of any species shall be liberated
into state waters without written
permission of the Secretary.
Exotic species of Asian carp (silver,
bighead, black and grass) taken
recreationally from state waters must
not be returned to the water and may
not be possessed alive.


This is the only place goldfish are mentioned in state fishing regulations.
This post was edited on 4/19/11 at 9:59 am
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29409 posts
Posted on 4/19/11 at 9:38 am to
quote:

This is the only place goldfish are mentioned in state fishing regulations.


Theory: Using goldfish as bait would result in at least some of them being released into the wild.
Posted by Slickback
Deer Stand
Member since Mar 2008
27691 posts
Posted on 4/19/11 at 9:40 am to
quote:

Pr ohibited Freshwater Fish No person may possess or sell in this state the following fishes: all species of piranha, tilapia and carp (except koi or common carp (Cyprinus carpio) and goldfish (Carassius auratus)); Rio Grand Cichlid; freshwater electric eel (Electrophorus sp.); rudd (Scardinius erythrophthalmus); all members of the families Synbranchidae (Asian swamp eels), Channidae (snakeheads), Clariidae (walking catfishes), and Trichomycteridae (pencil catfishes).

No fish of any species from outside the state shall be liberated within the state except upon written permission of the Secretary.


I don't know if using them as baitfish is considered "liberating" them. May want to get some clarification with WLF before you use them.

ETA: Dammit, you beat me to it.
This post was edited on 4/19/11 at 9:41 am
Posted by DieselTiger1
9 Dragon
Member since Oct 2008
13672 posts
Posted on 4/19/11 at 9:43 am to
LIBERATE THE GOLDFISH!!! VIVA LA REVOLUTION!!!
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57572 posts
Posted on 4/19/11 at 9:55 am to
On the phone with WLF now...stand by!

ETA: Can only use goldfish as bait if it's dead. No live fishies based on this provision:

quote:

No fish of any species from outside
the state shall be liberated within the
state except upon written permission of
the Secretary.


Slickback, you win a prize!
This post was edited on 4/19/11 at 10:00 am
Posted by GHamp
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2010
301 posts
Posted on 4/19/11 at 9:56 am to
Well I live in Ga, and I have to check on that the guy at petsmart said people coming in there all weekend buyn goldfish to fish with I need to check first I guess...
Posted by Slickback
Deer Stand
Member since Mar 2008
27691 posts
Posted on 4/19/11 at 9:58 am to
If you're just fishing in a neighborhood pond I wouldn't worry about it. I doubt WLF Agents will be patrolling that are. Hook them through the back or eye socket so they won't get loose, and if they do they'll die soon after.
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29409 posts
Posted on 4/19/11 at 9:59 am to
quote:

ETA: Can only used goldfist as bait if it's dead. No live fishies.


makes sense . . . but how do you know it's "dead" dead?
Posted by offshoretrash
Farmerville, La
Member since Aug 2008
10184 posts
Posted on 4/19/11 at 10:02 am to
Guys people have been fishing with live gold fish for years and this is the first I have ever heard it being illegal. I know a store that's selling live ones now for bait.

To the OP if it was me I would set out a bream trap and use the 3 to 4 inch fish for bait.
Posted by deaconjones35
Thibodaux
Member since Sep 2009
9806 posts
Posted on 4/19/11 at 10:03 am to
Slick- My friend owns the only cocahoe minnow farm in the country. I used to help him with it but got too busy with my "real" job. We were working on a strain of gold cocahoe minnows that bass would tear up. Our minnows would last longer in fresh water because they are farm raised in lower salinity than wild caught ones. Also, they are healthier in general...less disease, better nutrition, etc. Anyway, he runs out every year because he cannot keep up with production yet. They are working on some new techniques to increase production and probably expand. We have yet to sell any of the gold cocahoes until they are in full production.

All that being said, yes cocahoes are a good freshwater bait!
Posted by DieselTiger1
9 Dragon
Member since Oct 2008
13672 posts
Posted on 4/19/11 at 10:06 am to
let us know if you need and beta testers.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57572 posts
Posted on 4/19/11 at 10:11 am to
quote:

To the OP if it was me I would set out a bream trap and use the 3 to 4 inch fish for bait.


I've heard this is illegal. I used to go to Campus Lake at LSU with a minnow trap and a slice of bread and catch so many juvenile perch the trap would get heavy. They were great bass bait when fished under a cork.

quote:

We were working on a strain of gold cocahoe minnows that bass would tear up.


Get shiners and put some gold food coloring in the water. It's worth a try!
This post was edited on 4/19/11 at 10:14 am
Posted by deaconjones35
Thibodaux
Member since Sep 2009
9806 posts
Posted on 4/19/11 at 10:15 am to
10/4!
Posted by offshoretrash
Farmerville, La
Member since Aug 2008
10184 posts
Posted on 4/19/11 at 10:20 am to
quote:

I've heard this is illegal


To use a live trap sort of, to use bream for bait no. To use a live trap you have to follow the same rule hoop netters do. He is in a private pond so I think he can use what ever he wants.
Posted by GHamp
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2010
301 posts
Posted on 4/19/11 at 10:22 am to
quote:


let us know if you need and beta testers

Hey I cant wait to hit that old farm lake!!!! buddy also told me about Mudd puppies,and spring lizard....
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29409 posts
Posted on 4/19/11 at 10:33 am to
quote:

Get shiners and put some gold food coloring in the water.


They actually make markers than you can use to color the shiners.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81908 posts
Posted on 4/19/11 at 10:33 am to
Will be catching bream for bait tomorrow evening. Pics of the massive cats caught to come thursday.
Posted by Slickback
Deer Stand
Member since Mar 2008
27691 posts
Posted on 4/19/11 at 10:35 am to
quote:

deaconjones35


That sounds badass. In Louisiana?

I've always wanted to work at a fish hatchery or something like that. Should've majored in some kind of animal science/marine biology.
Posted by deaconjones35
Thibodaux
Member since Sep 2009
9806 posts
Posted on 4/19/11 at 10:39 am to
Yeah, it's in North Houma / Schriever. It's a gold mine if they can expand it. I would love to do it full time but at this point he can't pay me enough.

We only sold to bait shops in South Louisiana and one in Texas, but if they could expand, we would be able to sell everywhere.

The original owner got lucky when he caught his first batch to breed. There were a few minnows with the albino strain in them, so when he hatched his first batch, he had some albino ones. (look "gold") The gold ones would catch 5 fish to every 1 of the regular minnows.
Posted by Slickback
Deer Stand
Member since Mar 2008
27691 posts
Posted on 4/19/11 at 10:44 am to
Yeah, I imagine if he could produce a steady supply of gold/albino cocahoes, he'd be able to make some serious cash.
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