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What would the markets do if the U.S. didn't raise the debt ceiling?

Posted on 4/11/11 at 12:08 pm
Posted by OohPooPahDoo
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 4/11/11 at 12:08 pm
What would the markets do if the U.S. didn't raise the debt ceiling?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 4/11/11 at 12:21 pm to
I suppose a natural reaction would be for creditors to exit US debt instruments (treasuries). This would cause bond yields to rise in order sell said treasuries thus increasing the US interest on debt.

However, if a static debt ceiling was met with an appropriate decrease in spending creditors would likely be okay with holding US debt and collecting interest payments and selling US debt would be averted.

That's my off the cuff opinion...I'd like to hear others.
Posted by OohPooPahDoo
Member since Apr 2011
734 posts
Posted on 4/12/11 at 10:30 am to
Any others? The Politards seems to think its no big deal for the world's most powerful nation to default.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 4/12/11 at 10:43 am to
We'll be defaulting anyway, it's just a matter of when.

I don't think not raising it will have that drastic of an effect.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 4/12/11 at 10:44 am to
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Any others?


I agree with this bumpage.

Just to add, I see 3 separate choices or a combination of the 3:

1.) Raise debt ceiling. Easy
2.) Raise revenue, i.e. taxes. Very hard. Also, not guaranteed to raise sufficient revenue and not necessarily a linear cause and effect relationship.
3.) Cut spending. Very hard.

As difficult as it is for me to say this I'm beginning to come to the conclusion that a combination of all three is needed. I have the most difficultly with raising taxes. I don't know if raising taxes increases revenue due to the potential detrimental affects it might have on the economy.

Posted by OohPooPahDoo
Member since Apr 2011
734 posts
Posted on 4/12/11 at 10:57 am to
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We'll be defaulting anyway, it's just a matter of when.




Really? You should inform the bond market of this.
Posted by OohPooPahDoo
Member since Apr 2011
734 posts
Posted on 4/12/11 at 10:58 am to
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As difficult as it is for me to say this I'm beginning to come to the conclusion that a combination of all three is needed. I have the most difficultly with raising taxes. I don't know if raising taxes increases revenue due to the potential detrimental affects it might have on the economy.


So basically - if we can't solve decades+ worth of budget problems in a month, we should give up all hope and destroy the world economy.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
19644 posts
Posted on 4/12/11 at 11:05 am to
I'm a realist, there's nothing in our political culture that indicates that the establishment is willing to face the music. The bond market isn't always right (esp. before the fact), so I don't know what's your point on that.
Posted by OohPooPahDoo
Member since Apr 2011
734 posts
Posted on 4/12/11 at 11:12 am to
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I'm a realist, there's nothing in our political culture that indicates that the establishment is willing to face the music.



"face the music" ? Is that a technical term?
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
19644 posts
Posted on 4/12/11 at 11:17 am to
Go ahead and buy up all of the treasury bonds, the fed needs competition.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 4/12/11 at 11:31 am to
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OohPooPahDoo


Hey, look everyone!! Spidey is back!!
Posted by Blakely Bimbo
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 4/12/11 at 11:41 am to
2015 is my shtf target date.
Posted by kfizzle85
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 4/12/11 at 11:41 am to
Its like alter city up in this nowadays.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 4/12/11 at 11:45 am to
It happens every Spring.....
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