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What would the markets do if the U.S. didn't raise the debt ceiling?
Posted on 4/11/11 at 12:08 pm
Posted on 4/11/11 at 12:08 pm
What would the markets do if the U.S. didn't raise the debt ceiling?
Posted on 4/11/11 at 12:21 pm to OohPooPahDoo
I suppose a natural reaction would be for creditors to exit US debt instruments (treasuries). This would cause bond yields to rise in order sell said treasuries thus increasing the US interest on debt.
However, if a static debt ceiling was met with an appropriate decrease in spending creditors would likely be okay with holding US debt and collecting interest payments and selling US debt would be averted.
That's my off the cuff opinion...I'd like to hear others.
However, if a static debt ceiling was met with an appropriate decrease in spending creditors would likely be okay with holding US debt and collecting interest payments and selling US debt would be averted.
That's my off the cuff opinion...I'd like to hear others.
Posted on 4/12/11 at 10:30 am to GumboPot
Any others? The Politards seems to think its no big deal for the world's most powerful nation to default.
Posted on 4/12/11 at 10:43 am to OohPooPahDoo
We'll be defaulting anyway, it's just a matter of when.
I don't think not raising it will have that drastic of an effect.
I don't think not raising it will have that drastic of an effect.
Posted on 4/12/11 at 10:44 am to OohPooPahDoo
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Any others?
I agree with this bumpage.
Just to add, I see 3 separate choices or a combination of the 3:
1.) Raise debt ceiling. Easy
2.) Raise revenue, i.e. taxes. Very hard. Also, not guaranteed to raise sufficient revenue and not necessarily a linear cause and effect relationship.
3.) Cut spending. Very hard.
As difficult as it is for me to say this I'm beginning to come to the conclusion that a combination of all three is needed. I have the most difficultly with raising taxes. I don't know if raising taxes increases revenue due to the potential detrimental affects it might have on the economy.
Posted on 4/12/11 at 10:57 am to RollTide4Ever
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We'll be defaulting anyway, it's just a matter of when.
Really? You should inform the bond market of this.
Posted on 4/12/11 at 10:58 am to GumboPot
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As difficult as it is for me to say this I'm beginning to come to the conclusion that a combination of all three is needed. I have the most difficultly with raising taxes. I don't know if raising taxes increases revenue due to the potential detrimental affects it might have on the economy.
So basically - if we can't solve decades+ worth of budget problems in a month, we should give up all hope and destroy the world economy.
Posted on 4/12/11 at 11:05 am to OohPooPahDoo
I'm a realist, there's nothing in our political culture that indicates that the establishment is willing to face the music. The bond market isn't always right (esp. before the fact), so I don't know what's your point on that.
Posted on 4/12/11 at 11:12 am to RollTide4Ever
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I'm a realist, there's nothing in our political culture that indicates that the establishment is willing to face the music.
"face the music" ? Is that a technical term?
Posted on 4/12/11 at 11:17 am to OohPooPahDoo
Go ahead and buy up all of the treasury bonds, the fed needs competition. 
Posted on 4/12/11 at 11:31 am to OohPooPahDoo
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OohPooPahDoo
Hey, look everyone!! Spidey is back!!
Posted on 4/12/11 at 11:41 am to OohPooPahDoo
2015 is my shtf target date.
Posted on 4/12/11 at 11:41 am to LSURussian
Its like alter city up in this nowadays.
Posted on 4/12/11 at 11:45 am to kfizzle85
It happens every Spring.....
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