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re: Gavin Cecchini to Ole Miss
Posted on 4/11/11 at 4:02 pm to TigerAlum93
Posted on 4/11/11 at 4:02 pm to TigerAlum93
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The disagreement between Jones and Cecchini was over how pitchers are handled
I thought I remembered some kind of disagreement between the two. Now if someone would be so kind as to answer the second question, TIA.
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Posted on 4/11/11 at 4:17 pm to tigereye58
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Cecchini is much closer with Rick Jones than PM
yeah, uh, not anymore
Posted on 4/11/11 at 4:20 pm to Nissanmaxima
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Really and you would do it different how if you were in his shoes?
yes! frick, every other college coach seems to handle it well.
giving kids an earlier deadline when there is already a deadline is ridiculous.
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There was no need for him to try and throw LSU under the bus.
he has every reason to.
Posted on 4/11/11 at 4:32 pm to dj30
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I cant believe yall are actually defending Maineri. Its easy for someone who is already a millionaire to tell somebody else to turn down some money. He shouldnt pressure these kids to give them a deadline, and they shouldnt have to give him a number it would take for them to sign. He sounds like a winey bitch.
he didn't ask him to turn it down. P.M. doesn't have a problem with kids going pro or taking money. Just tell him that is your intention and he wont recruit you. he'll recruit the best player he can get to school.
He has a problem when you tell him, i'm coming, i want to go to college, unless i get this, i'm a tiger. The player doesn't get it and go's anyway. well, you waisted his time, the universities money, and prevented him from bringing in someone else who could have helped the team this year.
there are others who told the truth. A.R. D.j., jones, he won a national title because of d.j. a.r., gibbs, clark ect who told him they are coming.
Posted on 4/11/11 at 4:45 pm to dos crystal
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he didn't ask him to turn it down. P.M. doesn't have a problem with kids going pro or taking money. Just tell him that is your intention and he wont recruit you.
That's a bunch of BS. LSU recruits and signs players that go pro every year. Do you think he gets fooled multiple times every year? You're talking about becoming a millionaire. Again has Manieri ever pulled someone's scholarship and caused a transfer? Of course he has.
Guess what. It happens to every school. Get over it.
Posted on 4/11/11 at 4:52 pm to ThisWayChad
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But when Garin Cecchini decided to sign with the Red Sox after being selected in the fourth round of the MLB Amateur Draft,
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Gavin Cecchini de-committed soon after
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"My brother signed for 1.31 million, and they didn't like that he came off his number," said Gavin Cecchini, who visited Oxford with his brother in 2009. "They said if he signed for less, then they'd take away my scholarship offer. They didn't do that, but they stopped contact and didn't invite me to any games or anything. They would have pulled it.
The timing seems off. If he decommitted right after his brother signed, did he expect LSU to keep contacting him, and kissing his arse?
Obviously we will never hear PM's side of things and that is just the way it is.
Posted on 4/11/11 at 4:59 pm to Al Bundy Bulldog
Let him go to old piss
Posted on 4/11/11 at 5:09 pm to dos crystal
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he won a national title because of d.j. a.r., gibbs, clark ect who told him they are coming.
Guys above that were set on coming to college, who were not drafted high because of said intentions.
Micah Gibbs wasnt drafted until after his JR year at LSU.
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well, you waisted his time, the universities money, and prevented him from bringing in someone else who could have helped the team this year.
And what if he would have gotten what he said he wanted and not came to LSU?
All things above would still apply.
Like I said, the only way to avoid is to not recruit these guys. But PM knows he can't do that, because he wouldn't be able to compete without borderline kids like this.
It's a gamble that by now, PM knows he has to make. Which makes him a ninny baby for setting deadlines and complaining about it. Deal with it like other coaches do.
shite, if PM doesn't ask a kid what it would take for him to sign, then he wouldnt be disappointed. Don't pressure the kids. if you are going to, then don't cry when they fold under pressure and dont give you what you want. They are teenagers.
This post was edited on 4/11/11 at 5:11 pm
Posted on 4/11/11 at 5:22 pm to ColonelReb
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If you don't want the risk then don't recruit those players. But don't trash the player and family for doing what is best for them.
There was NO trashing...he just pulled the schollie
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We have Jared Foster coming to LSU next year.......sooooo.....It's not all doom and gloom.
Posted on 4/11/11 at 7:42 pm to lsusteve1
From what I understand LSU pulled his "preferred walkon" status so from what I hear he is no longer headed to BR. I'm not going to get into the details but I was very disappointed in the way LSU handled Garin being drafted and his brother's commitment. Both of these guys wanted to play at LSU, Garin signing for less money and Gavin's decommitment had nothing to do with any games on their part but how they were treated by some of the Tiger coaches.
Posted on 4/11/11 at 7:52 pm to dos crystal
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The player doesn't get it and go's anyway. well, you waisted his time, the universities money, and prevented him from bringing in someone else who could have helped the team this year.
Hes cut 2 of my friends from the team, so no I dont agree with this.
Posted on 4/11/11 at 8:17 pm to Lester Earl
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So Cecchini came off his demands slightly? Who cares.
It is a real threat that high school players use LSU as leverage with no intention of going to LSU. I'm 100% sure that Mainieri makes it clear that for a kid to hold an offer, he has to give LSU the minimum signing amount that they will take.
That gives LSU an opportunity to make decisions and evaluate the probability that a kid will make it onto campus. In the Ceccini situation, Mainieri was lied to. They understood the situation, LSU recruited with that in mind and the kid took less than the minimum amount he committed to LSU.
The kid and the family used LSU. It sucks. But, that's what happened. LSU had no choice but to not take the 2nd Ceccini seriously. I understand why they backed off.
This post was edited on 4/11/11 at 8:24 pm
Posted on 4/11/11 at 8:24 pm to dj30
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Hes cut 2 of my friends from the team, so no I dont agree with this.
It's a reality of having 11.7 scholarships.
Sucks for your friends but they weren't good enough.
Posted on 4/11/11 at 8:30 pm to ColonelReb
The baseball program will forever be bigger than any single kid. Good luck to him at OM.
Posted on 4/11/11 at 8:41 pm to ThisWayChad
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The price tag was noteworthy, but it was less than what Garin Cecchini had originally set as his number -- reportedly somewhere near $1.75 million. "My brother signed for 1.31 million, and they didn't like that he came off his number," said Gavin Cecchini, who visited Oxford with his brother in 2009. "They said if he signed for less, then they'd take away my scholarship offer. They didn't do that, but they stopped contact and didn't invite me to any games or anything. They would have pulled it. "It ended up being the best thing for me. I don't want to go to a place I can't trust and can't rely on. I'm 100 percent sure Ole Miss is where I am supposed to play college baseball."
So, let me see if I get this straight.
Cecchini ocnvinces LSU to extend an offer contingent on a certain figure. He violates that agreement and signs for LESS. AND LSU still has scholarship offer to the liars brother, despite his families deceit.
And now this jakeleg thinks he was wronged.
AMAZING...no wonder the world is going to hell in a handbasket.
Posted on 4/11/11 at 8:45 pm to Lester Earl
I think both sides have a legit reason to be upset, but there's no reason to not go after kids who'd love to attend your school because of a pissing match, it's unfair to them.
Posted on 4/11/11 at 8:49 pm to tigerfoot
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Cecchini ocnvinces LSU to extend an offer contingent on a certain figure.
yes, that's probably how it happened
The family did nothing wrong. Everyone involved knew it was a possibility that he would sign pro, yet for some reason Mainieri was surprised that he took over a million dollars? Just like he was surprised when ZVR signed the biggest contract outside the first round when he was drafted. Just like he was surprised that Zach Lee took the money. Mainieri needs shove his ego to the side and realize that LSU isn't the be-all, end-all for these kids, and that the MLB teams will always have the advantage, no matter how many fake deadlines you set.
Posted on 4/11/11 at 8:56 pm to moneyg
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It's a reality of having 11.7 scholarships.
Sucks for your friends but they weren't good enough.
That wasnt the point I was trying to make.
Posted on 4/11/11 at 9:01 pm to ProjectP2294
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yet for some reason Mainieri was surprised that he took over a million dollars?
No Maineri would not have been suprised at all if he took 1.75, as that is what was told it would take to lure him away from LSU.
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Mainieri needs shove his ego to the side and realize that LSU isn't the be-all, end-all for these kids
There is no ego here, there was an agreement, and it was violated.
If they say "if we are offered 1 million we are gone" and they left for 1.31..then no issue. But that does not resemble what happened.
Sounds to me like Maineri told them the consequence. They are the ones yapping about it.
Posted on 4/11/11 at 9:03 pm to tigerfoot
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Sounds to me like Maineri told them the consequence. They are the ones yapping about it.
To tell a family that the younger kids offer is only valid if the older brother signs for x amount or higher is a shitty move. If you don't think it's a shitty move, take off your P&G glasses because they're making you dumber.
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