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Nothing Should Suprise Us About Joe Alleva...LSU Reveille 2009
Posted on 4/1/11 at 8:10 am
Posted on 4/1/11 at 8:10 am
Guest Columnist: Choice of Alleva as athletic director still puzzling
By Stephen Wolf
Special to The Daily Reveille
Published: Monday, October 12, 2009
Updated: Monday, October 12, 2009 21:10
EDITOR'S NOTE: Stephen Wolf is a guest columnist for The Daily Reveille; his views do not represent those of the paper or its staff.
When LSU hired Joe Alleva as athletic director despite widespread doubt over his integrity and abilities, it struck me as a bit strange. Joe Alleva heading a supposed first class athletic department made as much sense to me as Jerry Springer: The Opera. The two seemed incompatible.
When Joe Alleva was named vice chancellor due to title consolidation stemming from budget cuts, it struck me as very strange. Joe Alleva holding a significant position of power in the academic hierarchy at a supposed "first-tier" university made as much sense to me as porn star Stormy Daniels running for U.S. Senate.
"Duke's last president, Nan Keohane, made a terrible choice when she selected Alleva as athletic director in 1998," wrote well-respected sportswriter John Feinstein in a 2007 column for the Washington Post. "Everyone at Duke knew that Alleva was a pleasant man whose next original idea would be his first, someone whose main asset when applying for the job was the fact that his racquetball partner was Mike Krzyzewski."
LSU was given an additional 10 years to see just how incompetent Alleva is, and they still hired him.
Perhaps Alleva's most egregious mishandling of his job of athletic director at Duke was the lacrosse team scandal. The levels of hypocrisy on Alleva's handling of this case left many wondering if it all stemmed from savvy damage control or frightening cluelessness.
When rumors about the lacrosse team's propensity for out-of-control partying reached Alleva, no action was taken. Once Duke players were accused of rape, the tide turned, and accused players were thrown under the bus prior to the inevitable conviction — that never came. Alleva was quoted as calling the dropping of the rape charge as "another step in establishing the entire truth in this matter."
Alas, it was too late for Duke lacrosse coach Mike Pressler, who by all accounts had done nothing wrong, yet was the scapegoat for the entire case. Rather than admitting Duke's Athletic Department had failed to heed warning signs of the team's out-of-control behavior, blame was placed squarely on Pressler, and he was forced to resign.
What disturbs me most about Alleva's handling of the scandal is his lack of accountability. His stubborn refusal to admit any fault and his witch-hunting mentality sets a scary precedent.
Joe Alleva's bio on LSUSports.net is a riot.
"Alleva, 56, is well-respected for sustaining high standards of excellence and integrity in athletic programs, hiring the finest coaches in the country and the high level of success achieved by student-athletes."
Does that include hiring Ted Roof, who went 6-45 while heading the mockery of a football program under Alleva's watch? What about Bill Hiller, who led Duke Baseball to a 121-214 record after Alleva hired him?
It's no secret Alleva hires cronies with whom he has connections over qualified coaches.
"Under Alleva's direction, all 20 LSU sports competed in NCAA post-season play for the first time in school history, and it culminated with the baseball team winning the national championship."
Yes, because we all know the impact Joe Alleva had on these programs' performances in his first year as AD.
In typical Alleva fashion, he takes credit for things he does not deserve and refuses blame when it is warranted. Alleva's track record of "success" is filled with strong academic performances by his athletes at Duke, as if Alleva spent his weekends tutoring these athletes.
I've gotten this far, and I have not even mentioned multiple former Duke athletes accusing Alleva of encouraging them to use steroids.
Alas, in today's day and age, a phony smile, a cheesy comb-over, and a mastery of the "cover your arse" philosophy trump a track record of substance.
Stephen Wolf is a mass communication sophomore from Deerfield, Illinois.
By Stephen Wolf
Special to The Daily Reveille
Published: Monday, October 12, 2009
Updated: Monday, October 12, 2009 21:10
EDITOR'S NOTE: Stephen Wolf is a guest columnist for The Daily Reveille; his views do not represent those of the paper or its staff.
When LSU hired Joe Alleva as athletic director despite widespread doubt over his integrity and abilities, it struck me as a bit strange. Joe Alleva heading a supposed first class athletic department made as much sense to me as Jerry Springer: The Opera. The two seemed incompatible.
When Joe Alleva was named vice chancellor due to title consolidation stemming from budget cuts, it struck me as very strange. Joe Alleva holding a significant position of power in the academic hierarchy at a supposed "first-tier" university made as much sense to me as porn star Stormy Daniels running for U.S. Senate.
"Duke's last president, Nan Keohane, made a terrible choice when she selected Alleva as athletic director in 1998," wrote well-respected sportswriter John Feinstein in a 2007 column for the Washington Post. "Everyone at Duke knew that Alleva was a pleasant man whose next original idea would be his first, someone whose main asset when applying for the job was the fact that his racquetball partner was Mike Krzyzewski."
LSU was given an additional 10 years to see just how incompetent Alleva is, and they still hired him.
Perhaps Alleva's most egregious mishandling of his job of athletic director at Duke was the lacrosse team scandal. The levels of hypocrisy on Alleva's handling of this case left many wondering if it all stemmed from savvy damage control or frightening cluelessness.
When rumors about the lacrosse team's propensity for out-of-control partying reached Alleva, no action was taken. Once Duke players were accused of rape, the tide turned, and accused players were thrown under the bus prior to the inevitable conviction — that never came. Alleva was quoted as calling the dropping of the rape charge as "another step in establishing the entire truth in this matter."
Alas, it was too late for Duke lacrosse coach Mike Pressler, who by all accounts had done nothing wrong, yet was the scapegoat for the entire case. Rather than admitting Duke's Athletic Department had failed to heed warning signs of the team's out-of-control behavior, blame was placed squarely on Pressler, and he was forced to resign.
What disturbs me most about Alleva's handling of the scandal is his lack of accountability. His stubborn refusal to admit any fault and his witch-hunting mentality sets a scary precedent.
Joe Alleva's bio on LSUSports.net is a riot.
"Alleva, 56, is well-respected for sustaining high standards of excellence and integrity in athletic programs, hiring the finest coaches in the country and the high level of success achieved by student-athletes."
Does that include hiring Ted Roof, who went 6-45 while heading the mockery of a football program under Alleva's watch? What about Bill Hiller, who led Duke Baseball to a 121-214 record after Alleva hired him?
It's no secret Alleva hires cronies with whom he has connections over qualified coaches.
"Under Alleva's direction, all 20 LSU sports competed in NCAA post-season play for the first time in school history, and it culminated with the baseball team winning the national championship."
Yes, because we all know the impact Joe Alleva had on these programs' performances in his first year as AD.
In typical Alleva fashion, he takes credit for things he does not deserve and refuses blame when it is warranted. Alleva's track record of "success" is filled with strong academic performances by his athletes at Duke, as if Alleva spent his weekends tutoring these athletes.
I've gotten this far, and I have not even mentioned multiple former Duke athletes accusing Alleva of encouraging them to use steroids.
Alas, in today's day and age, a phony smile, a cheesy comb-over, and a mastery of the "cover your arse" philosophy trump a track record of substance.
Stephen Wolf is a mass communication sophomore from Deerfield, Illinois.
Posted on 4/1/11 at 8:14 am to tigerfan4ever2010
Same old arguments about Alleva.
Different person.
Different person.
Posted on 4/1/11 at 8:16 am to c on z
Based on what I've seen so far I hope Miles sticks around awhile because I don't want Alleva anywhere near a football hire.
Posted on 4/1/11 at 8:17 am to nicholastiger
Dan Radakovich was our man and we let him go for this assclown we have now.
Posted on 4/1/11 at 8:28 am to LSUdm21
Guys I don't post much, but I definitely wanted to chime in on this one. That whole Duke lacrosse thing, and Alleva's handling thereof really bothers the crap out of me.
While I try not to judge someone's ability based on what was probably the worst mistake of their professional life (and btw, would not want my ability judged on my worst day), I do think that that one particular incident, and how he handled it, is pretty telling.
It definitely took CYAing to a new level, and I'm not sure we'd want Mr. Alleva in the trenches if the going got tough, or if he ever had to make a decision as important as the hiring a head football coach.
While I try not to judge someone's ability based on what was probably the worst mistake of their professional life (and btw, would not want my ability judged on my worst day), I do think that that one particular incident, and how he handled it, is pretty telling.
It definitely took CYAing to a new level, and I'm not sure we'd want Mr. Alleva in the trenches if the going got tough, or if he ever had to make a decision as important as the hiring a head football coach.
Posted on 4/1/11 at 8:32 am to tigerfan4ever2010
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Stephen Wolf is a mass communication sophomore from Deerfield, Illinois.
quote:
Published: Monday, October 12, 2009
Updated: Monday, October 12, 2009 21:10
Posted on 4/1/11 at 8:33 am to LSUdm21
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Dan Radakovich was our man and we let him go for this assclown we have now.
Didn't he leave before it was time for us to look for a new AD?
Posted on 4/1/11 at 8:34 am to TigerTreyjpg
quote:
It definitely took CYAing to a new level, and I'm not sure we'd want Mr. Alleva in the trenches if the going got tough, or if he ever had to make a decision as important as the hiring a head football coach.
This isn't always left up to just the AD. You think Joe Dean was responsible for getting Saban here?
Posted on 4/1/11 at 8:40 am to spslayto
quote:
This isn't always left up to just the AD.
Exactly.
Posted on 4/1/11 at 8:42 am to spslayto
That's a good point, and a fair enough question, as you are correct - Emmert had everything to do w/getting Saban here, not JD.
I was more trying to make the point that if Alleva's handling of the lacrosse thing is any indication of how he performs under pressure, I'm not sure we'd be pleased, as alumnus/fans, with that performance.
I was more trying to make the point that if Alleva's handling of the lacrosse thing is any indication of how he performs under pressure, I'm not sure we'd be pleased, as alumnus/fans, with that performance.
Posted on 4/1/11 at 8:56 am to TigerTreyjpg
What are, or I should say were, his current complaints about Alleva in Oct. 2009? All he does is bash Alleva's history at Duke. Just because you have an opinion, doesn't mean you are qualified to put it in the paper!
Posted on 4/1/11 at 8:59 am to LSUray
For a person who hasnt really done much of anything, good or bad, Alleva gets a ton of hate
I don't get it
I don't get it
Posted on 4/1/11 at 8:59 am to c on z
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Didn't he leave before it was time for us to look for a new AD?
He went to Ga Tech, I believe, but I think he would have been very interested in coming back as the AD.
Posted on 4/1/11 at 9:02 am to c on z
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Didn't he leave before it was time for us to look for a new AD?
Yes. He left for Ga. Tech in 2006. When it came time to hire a new AD he had been there for 2 years and was under Skip for a few years. He knew how to work the big machine that is LSU athletics. Alleva was/is not the right man for this job. I've never felt any differently.
Posted on 4/1/11 at 9:13 am to DBG
quote:
For a person who hasnt really done much of anything, good or bad, Alleva gets a ton of hate
I don't get it
I totally agree. He may wind up being the worst AD in LSU history, but he hasn't done anything yet to indicate that might be the case.
Posted on 4/1/11 at 9:14 am to LSUdm21
I was disappointed in Alleva's letter to the fans about Coach Miles after the 2009 season. If you feel like a coach is doing a poor job, replace him. Otherwise support him. And whichever course you choose, you should be prepared to take the criticism for it. I viewed that letter as a cop out. He wasn't prepared to fire Miles, and he was trying to appear tough minded to the fans who wanted him gone. You can't have it both ways. Good leaders stand by their decisions and stand by their people.
Posted on 4/1/11 at 9:35 am to TigerTreyjpg
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It definitely took CYAing to a new level
There might be some truth in what you say, but I have to think the Duke Lacrosse thing we handled at a higher level at Duke than the AD level and rings to me like Duke attorneys were advising the cut and run method.
Having said that, it seemed to be a rush to judgement that Joe certainly has to carry on his back at least partially due to his position.
Kinda like some of us tried to do with Paul, Les, Trent, and now Joe.
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