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re: Taurus's new Judge

Posted on 1/31/11 at 8:42 am to
Posted by coloradoBengal
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 1/31/11 at 8:42 am to
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yea cause a .45LC is going to make a follow up shot real easy and accurate.



So you honestly can't think of anything you'd rather shoot less at an intruder? Its really the last thing you'd rather shoot?

Its an exaggeration.
You make a lot of "this is the absolute best/worst thing" comments.
Posted by gmrkr5
NC
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 1/31/11 at 9:31 am to
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ok guys, listen to what I'm saying.. This is THE reason for my buying the Judge.. It is for the wife. SHE is a pretty good shot with a pistol, she also has a 357.. BUT, in case an intruder ever breaks in on her and I'm not there.. SHE has someting within arms reach on her bedside table that she can point and shoot, in the dark, and even with adrenalin, nerves, anxiety, etc. etc.,, I feel confident that SHE can run somebodys arse out of the room, without having to "aim" for a vital area, when she may or may not be able to see..That's my reason for HER to have that gun.. I prefer my 12 gauge, for ME...


I hear ya and you're reasoning isn't all bad. I just think the gun gives people a false sense of security for one because of the misconceptions of having a handheld "shotgun". Plus I think both of the rounds it shoots are not made for the situations the gun is geared toward, unless you use it for shooting snakes.
This post was edited on 1/31/11 at 9:34 am
Posted by gmrkr5
NC
Member since Jul 2009
14938 posts
Posted on 1/31/11 at 9:33 am to
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So you honestly can't think of anything you'd rather shoot less at an intruder? Its really the last thing you'd rather shoot?

Its an exaggeration.
You make a lot of "this is the absolute best/worst thing" comments.


ok captain literal. There are many other rounds I would like to have at my disposal if I needed to make multiple follow up shots. better? We all know how much you love the Judge. It's ok...
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/31/11 at 9:37 am to
Just take a look at the snake thread and that should be reason enough to own a judge. .410 birdshot >>>>> any other rat shot.
Posted by coloradoBengal
Member since Sep 2007
32608 posts
Posted on 1/31/11 at 9:46 am to
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ok captain literal. There are many other rounds I would like to have at my disposal if I needed to make multiple follow up shots. better? We all know how much you love the Judge. It's ok...
I don't "love the judge". I never said in any thread that I owned one, wanted one, or "loved" them. Nor did I ever say they were the "best" thing for home defense or any other kind of use.

You just have a visceral need to tell everyone how much it sucks on all accounts, without knowing any of the details of their situation.

Here's a tip for you... there's a lot of guns out there, in a lot of different styles and different calibers, that do a lot of things for different people. Ease off the hyperbole and the bias and people might take you a little more seriously.
Posted by Ole Geauxt
KnowLa.
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/31/11 at 9:47 am to
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she can point and shoot, in the dark, and even with adrenalin, nerves, anxiety
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without having to "aim" for a vital area, when she may or may not be able to see
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a false sense of security
well, I do feel a sense of security knowing that she can back up an intruder coming through the bedroom window and not miss.
Posted by gmrkr5
NC
Member since Jul 2009
14938 posts
Posted on 1/31/11 at 9:50 am to
I agree, it's awesome for snakes.
Posted by gmrkr5
NC
Member since Jul 2009
14938 posts
Posted on 1/31/11 at 9:52 am to
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You just have a visceral need to tell everyone how much it sucks on all accounts, without knowing any of the details of their situation.


dude, just like the last time the OP asked for opinions. I wasn't even the first person to say it sucked.

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Here's a tip for you... there's a lot of guns out there, in a lot of different styles and different calibers, that do a lot of things for different people. Ease off the hyperbole and the bias and people might take you a little more seriously.


Yes and I own quite a few of them. If I was so biased toward certain things like you say I am my collection would be much smaller. I just think the judge is a dumbass gun.
Posted by gmrkr5
NC
Member since Jul 2009
14938 posts
Posted on 1/31/11 at 9:53 am to
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well, I do feel a sense of security knowing that she can back up an intruder coming through the bedroom window and not miss.


Well you said she also has a .357 so I'm guessing she knows her way around a gun. the sense of security probably isn't so false with her.
Posted by CajunFootball
Jackson, Mississippi
Member since Oct 2010
19432 posts
Posted on 1/31/11 at 9:55 am to
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ok guys, listen to what I'm saying.. This is THE reason for my buying the Judge.. It is for the wife. SHE is a pretty good shot with a pistol, she also has a 357.. BUT, in case an intruder ever breaks in on her and I'm not there.. SHE has someting within arms reach on her bedside table that she can point and shoot, in the dark, and even with adrenalin, nerves, anxiety, etc. etc.,, I feel confident that SHE can run somebodys arse out of the room, without having to "aim" for a vital area, when she may or may not be able to see..That's my reason for HER to have that gun.. I prefer my 12 gauge, for ME...


This is what I trying to say, but I got beat to it. It's not for me to use..but my gf can at least hit someone with it..an two or three shots at someone an their arse is going to be running.



Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
82922 posts
Posted on 1/31/11 at 10:00 am to
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I just think the judge is a dumbass gun.


Posted by INFIDEL
The couch
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 1/31/11 at 10:14 am to
Maybe they will be able to hit something if you have loaded with shot. Then again they have a better chance of actually being hurt cutting themselves on glass while coming through the window. I think you people have watched too much tv.

Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 1/31/11 at 10:16 am to
Okie dokie
Posted by coloradoBengal
Member since Sep 2007
32608 posts
Posted on 1/31/11 at 10:21 am to
I hate that this point needs to keep being made in these kinds of threads, but...

If you miss what you're aiming for, it won't matter at all what kind of gun or round you are shooting.

If you hit what you're aiming for, it matters more, but not much in the usual home defense scenario.

If you own a gun of any kind. Learn to shoot it, at least moderately well. Practice with it.

If you don't own a gun, find one that suits your needs, feels good in your hand, and that you can hit something with.

Everything else is academic.
Posted by gmrkr5
NC
Member since Jul 2009
14938 posts
Posted on 1/31/11 at 10:32 am to
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I hate that this point needs to keep being made in these kinds of threads, but...

If you miss what you're aiming for, it won't matter at all what kind of gun or round you are shooting.

If you hit what you're aiming for, it matters more, but not much in the usual home defense scenario.

If you own a gun of any kind. Learn to shoot it, at least moderately well. Practice with it.

If you don't own a gun, find one that suits your needs, feels good in your hand, and that you can hit something with.

Everything else is academic.


good post.. ever seen anyone training with a Judge? Not being sarcastic either, have you?
Posted by Ole Geauxt
KnowLa.
Member since Dec 2007
50880 posts
Posted on 1/31/11 at 10:38 am to
you weren't talking to me, but:
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good post
yes it was, especially the first 3 lines.
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ever seen anyone training with a Judge
Why, yes I have...
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Not being sarcastic
but, trying real hard..
Posted by gmrkr5
NC
Member since Jul 2009
14938 posts
Posted on 1/31/11 at 10:43 am to
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Why, yes I have...


you're wife I assume.. anyone else?

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but, trying real hard..


lol..I really wasn't. I have never seen one single person at a range with a judge.
Posted by Blue Velvet
Apple butter toast is nice
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/31/11 at 10:44 am to
Perfect for shooting rats and snakes while brushhogging.
Posted by coloradoBengal
Member since Sep 2007
32608 posts
Posted on 1/31/11 at 10:48 am to
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good post.. ever seen anyone training with a Judge? Not being sarcastic either, have you?


I don't see much "training" going on at the range with almost any weapon, to be honest. I don't know that its more or less prevalent with Judge owners, but most people at the range appear to be slinging lead for fun rather than practice.

The people that I have seen firing "The Judge" at the range, did not appear to be doing more than just blasting away for fun.
But I've seen just as many people doing the same thing with everything from an AK to a .22 to a Sig.

I think you're point is a good one, that people shouldn't buy the Judge for home defense, thinking its going to do anything special that other handguns won't. But by the same token... those people could pretty much buy an HK USP and its not going to change anything except they may be able to send more stray rounds into the ceiling, floor, or the nursery.

Get a gun. Learn to use it. That's what's important. If someone "likes" the Judge, and can reliably hit the 10 ring from the bed to the door, then I think they are better off than a lot of people with "better" guns.
Posted by Ole Geauxt
KnowLa.
Member since Dec 2007
50880 posts
Posted on 1/31/11 at 10:48 am to
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you're wife I assume.. anyone else?
well, usually I do with her, and sometimes a couple more couples with theirs.. But, thats not at a range, but, in my back pasture..Does that not count?
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