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A Tulsa fan's perspective on Steve Kragthorpe (GOOD Hire)

Posted on 1/20/11 at 1:03 pm
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26368 posts
Posted on 1/20/11 at 1:03 pm
Found this from Espn's article's comments, LINK

quote:

I am very jealous...as a Tulsa fan I watched Coach K bring a horrible football program out of the dirt (that was about to get closed down at the smallest div 1 school in the country) and make it a top 20 team, winning repeated bowl games, win Conference USA and beating big 12 and sec teams in some recruits. The guy is a stud. He not only is an offensive genius, he is an very good recruiter, passionate, but also a true gentleman (which translates huge with recruiting). Disregard the Louisville talk, believe me, what happened there was not his doing. He will win another national championship at LSU, and the Tiger fans will be thrilled with this hire, just wait....I am still angry Tulsa did not rehire him after Graham went to Pitt. The guy is the real deal and you will be very, very pleased.
This post was edited on 1/20/11 at 1:10 pm
Posted by Cajun Tifoso
Lafayette, LA
Member since Sep 2010
2719 posts
Posted on 1/20/11 at 1:08 pm to
PLEASE, PLEASE play out as predicted...
Posted by filmmaker45
Member since Mar 2008
14554 posts
Posted on 1/20/11 at 1:09 pm to
This is encouraging.
Posted by Acreboy
Member since Nov 2005
38568 posts
Posted on 1/20/11 at 1:10 pm to
This is very anti-crowton
Posted by jack6294
Greater Baton Rouge Area
Member since Jan 2007
4033 posts
Posted on 1/20/11 at 1:13 pm to
Thank you Mrs Kragthorpe
Posted by luvmesumlsu
DFW
Member since Dec 2005
2320 posts
Posted on 1/20/11 at 1:20 pm to
quote:

Thank you Mrs Kragthorpe


Posted by DFWLSUTX
Dallas
Member since Jan 2011
1697 posts
Posted on 1/20/11 at 1:21 pm to
Eh mixed feelings on this....theirs probably not a single OC in the SEC that wouldnt thrive in the conference USA after a year or two.

This is the only thing that worries me about him....Hes played in some weak conferences besides the big 12......that first real sec matchup, he could be like Holy *$#@ these guys are fast
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 1/20/11 at 1:22 pm to
Conflicting info
Posted by SwampDonks
Member since Mar 2008
18342 posts
Posted on 1/20/11 at 1:24 pm to
quote:

Steve Kragthorpe (Total Offense)
1998 Texas A&M OC #91
1999 Texas A&M OC #58
2000 Texas A&M OC #49
2003 Tulsa HC #51
2004 Tulsa HC #73
2005 Tulsa HC #39
2006 Tulsa HC #24
2007 Louisville HC #6
2008 Louisville HC #45
2009 Louisville HC #91


If he can get us into the 30's like he's shown he can do, then LSU will be very tough to beat. These numbers just don't impress me very much, but I do like how he seems to improve the longer he is at somewhere. Problem is we need him to improve the offense dramatically in year one. Guess we'll see.

Posted by DFWLSUTX
Dallas
Member since Jan 2011
1697 posts
Posted on 1/20/11 at 1:35 pm to
Total Offense can be misleading...he was in top 30 at conference USA and big east......Defenses are not even close to SEC
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52841 posts
Posted on 1/20/11 at 1:38 pm to
quote:

..he was in top 30 at conference USA and big east.....Defenses are not even close to SEC


1) I hate "total offense" stats, too

2) But, neither is the offensive talent.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26368 posts
Posted on 1/20/11 at 1:38 pm to
He'll be fine. It's not like he's alone on the job. Miles will always be associated with everything on the offensive side of the ball anyway.
Posted by OldIowaTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2006
7313 posts
Posted on 1/20/11 at 1:44 pm to
Are they describing Les Miles?

quote:

he is an very good recruiter, passionate, but also a true gentleman (which translates huge with recruiting).


and a fan bases divided over their opinion of him (Tulsa, Louisville).
Posted by MoreOrLes
Member since Nov 2008
19472 posts
Posted on 1/20/11 at 1:45 pm to
i hope that post is not the same thing we did for Maryland fans with Crouton

Posted by Politiceaux
Member since Feb 2009
17664 posts
Posted on 1/20/11 at 1:55 pm to
quote:

that first real sec matchup, he could be like Holy *$#@ these guys are fast

Yeah, those NFL players have nothing on the SEC
Posted by Commando
Never Never Land
Member since Jan 2009
2814 posts
Posted on 1/20/11 at 2:20 pm to
quote:

Problem is we need him to improve the offense dramatically in year one


Define dramatically. We won 9 games being in the bottom ten and 11 games being in the bottom 20 in total offense. Won't take much to be better than that, and that in turn will make our stellar defense that much better (less time on the field, less pressure to hold the other offense scoreless).
Posted by SwampDonks
Member since Mar 2008
18342 posts
Posted on 1/20/11 at 2:39 pm to
quote:

Define dramatically.


If they want to make it through the tough schedule with 0 or 1 losses, then I believe the offense will need to be at best 40th or better.

If it's not, there's gonna be a game or two mixed in there where the offense won't have enough to win it for us and that's all that would be needed to ruin any national championship hopes

So if he can get us from 81st(last year) to at least 40th which would mean us averaging 400 yards/game when we averaged 343 last year, I like our chances. Anything above and I think we have two losses along the way
Posted by Commando
Never Never Land
Member since Jan 2009
2814 posts
Posted on 1/20/11 at 2:46 pm to
quote:

So if he can get us from 81st(last year)


Bowl game totally skewed this number didn't it?
Posted by ComishTheVictor
Member since Jan 2011
11 posts
Posted on 1/20/11 at 2:50 pm to
Yes but neither are the offenses.
Posted by jackson123
Dallas
Member since Jul 2010
1550 posts
Posted on 1/20/11 at 2:53 pm to
Half of the top offenses are shitty teams that are on offense a lot. I'll take situational play calling. LSU historically strives on defense.

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