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re: WWL reporting "Miles wants to stay."
Posted on 1/11/11 at 9:17 am to Tarheel Tiger
Posted on 1/11/11 at 9:17 am to Tarheel Tiger
quote:Sounds like a good start. Maybe not a 4 year extension for a NC, only 2 or 3, but other than that, I like your idea.
Couldn't they just agree that every year that Miles wins 9 or more games they extend agreement for another year. If he wins SEC championship then 2 years extension. If NC then 4 year extension. This should align with both what LSU wants and I think what Miles should want. This gives him lots of cushion for those "occasional" 7 or 8 win seasons with no contract extension. If he performs most years, he can be here as long as he wants. LSU could add a clause that if he wins 8 games or less for 3 years running, then they can fire him without paying remaining years on contract. To me, this seems like a typical pay for performance agreement that any of the rest of would expect in the work world.
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Posted on 1/11/11 at 9:17 am to Jake88
quote:
I'm not talking about you. But you know the tenor of this board at that time.
Agree. I just hate the "everybody" stuff. I am sorry. I honestly mean no offense to you, personally. I just would like it for "everybody" to realize there is not universal agreement on ANYTHING on this board, so try not to use a universal characterization.
Posted on 1/11/11 at 9:17 am to drexyl
Maybe we should pay him for production. 300k per win with a bonus for the SEC champ, etc. I'm gonna call Joe now to discuss.
Posted on 1/11/11 at 9:17 am to drexyl
quote:
I think Miles meant that people shouldn't freak out due to an occasional 8-win season.
A lot of FBS teams would kill to have an 8 win season considered as an "off" year.
While I think LSU should always strive for a minimum of 10 wins a year it is ludicrous to think that we will never have a down year. We had it in 2008, improved in 2009, and despite the struggles won 11 this year including a bowl win.
Posted on 1/11/11 at 9:17 am to Placebeaux
quote:was the favorite to win the national championship with a returning heisman winner; one of the top WR in football; returning NC winning QB. lost THREE GAMES.
quote:
great...another Sabanista. never frickin' mind
Best coach in the game.
what happened?
followup question what would you say if the same thing happened to Miles? squanders talent, can't play as a frontrunner, MEDIOCRE etc.?
Posted on 1/11/11 at 9:18 am to BayouBengal51
You simply cannot argue with the fact that Miles has made history since he has been here and had several historical records this season!
Posted on 1/11/11 at 9:19 am to drexyl
quote:
what happened?
He lost his magic
Posted on 1/11/11 at 9:19 am to josh336
quote:
and 9 win seasons these days when you play 13 is mediocre
Using the above:
Bama has been "mediocre" 7 of last 11 years
Auburn 8 of last 11
Ga. 5 of last 11
Fla. 6 of 11
So. Carol 11 of 11
LSU 5 of 11
So. Cal 5 of 11
Throwing the "mediocre" tag for any team not winning 10 games when teams play in the best conference college football has to offer, is being blind to the excellence of the SEC. imo
It would equate to saying any ACC basketball team not winning 20 games a season is "mediocre".
Posted on 1/11/11 at 9:19 am to white beans
quote:
I think Miles meant that people shouldn't freak out due to an occasional 8-win season.
quote:
well, when all 8 are against rent-a-win teams and sec bottom feeders, and the rest of the losses are to the actual competition, it's a 0 win season imo.
Seriously guy? Seriously?
Posted on 1/11/11 at 9:19 am to Chicken
quote:
I think Miles meant that people shouldn't freak out due to an occasional 8-win season.
I think 8 years of really good football have spoiled the bunch. I read that statement to mean that he wants to be here long term and wants some job security. I think they need to negotiate getting Crowton out as part of that job security though.
Posted on 1/11/11 at 9:19 am to The312
quote:Please stop posting. I lost IQ points just reading your drivel....
Absolutely not. Miles should not be assured of his job if he produces mediocre results. It's ridicuous. And unheard of. No school commits itself perpetually to mediocrity.
Posted on 1/11/11 at 9:20 am to Lonnie4LSU
Didn't realize we've been playing 12 game seasons the last 11 years, excuse me
Posted on 1/11/11 at 9:20 am to Placebeaux
quote:
great...another Sabanista. never frickin' mind
Best coach in the game.
2002 LSU
2004 LSU
2010 Bama
Three of the most underachieving teams in the last 20 years of college football.
Posted on 1/11/11 at 9:20 am to timlan2057
quote:
An occasional 8-4 and even 7-5 season is possible. I hope we have commitment to a winning coach to realize that is possible.
BUT: for 4 million bucks per year, 8-4 and 7-5 better not be the norm.
You summed it up perfectly -- I don't think Les is asking for anyone to accept mediocrity. But at the same time, I think he is asking the administration to face the facts -- "shite happens."
EVERY program will have a down year or two, what he is wanting is for his boss to look at how things are trending... one 8 win season in the middle of runs of 10, 9, and 11 wins should not automatically put him on the hot seat. Ugly wins not with-standing, the guy has put together a damn good record at LSU.
Coach Miles is an excellent recruiter. He doesn't put up with thuggish or lazy behavior (see Ryan Perriloux). He supports his players when they need him (see Ridley). Every interview I have ever seen him give he includes how proud he is to represent the university and live in Baton Rouge. I seriously don't understand what most of these so-called LSU Football experts are bitching about -- Les is clearly asking for a little respect which he has dutifully earned.
Posted on 1/11/11 at 9:21 am to TigersWon
I can understand Miles requesting this because he also realizes that he nearly had an 8 win year again this year. He got lucky to not get burned by his lack of game time management. I'd say, move on if he is demanding such terms.
Posted on 1/11/11 at 9:21 am to LSURussian
This is B.S. Coach Miles has said many times he understood the frustration of the Fan Base. He had the same frustration but did want more support. Les never wavered in his commitment to his team and coaches, and they never wavered in their support of Coach Miles.
Posted on 1/11/11 at 9:21 am to Choctaw
quote:
you have no idea what you're talking about.
Miles isn't talking about perpetual "mediocrity". He's had 4 11 win seasons for Christs sake.
Wow, what a surprise, the Miles sycophant supports an unprecedented contractual clause or extracontractual "promise" that Miles won't be fired if he endures eight win seasons. It's a ridiculous notion on its face. It's not even feasible. How would one enforce it? Can the school take into account the manner of the losses? If he loses four games 50-3, can we fire him? If he loses one close game and three blowouts? What if he loses four games in one season due to clock mismanagement? What if his recruiting declines, but he wins eight games? What about two consecutive eight win seasons? What if there are NCAA violations and he wins nine games? Does winning seven games exempt LSU from the promise? Is it eight wins including the bowl or excluding the bowl? What if fan apathy increases and attendence drops?
It's an assinine concept. LSU should - and will -never relinquish its right to assess the coach on an annual basis and determine the direction of the football program as it sees fit. No other coach in the nation has such an accomodation.
Posted on 1/11/11 at 9:26 am to tigabait01
If I’m Alleva, I say…sure Miles. We can agree to that, as long as we have an exception built in that says “Les Miles is guaranteed to not be fired following an 8-win season as long as the losses don’t result from sheer stupidity of the head coach.” We got a deal.
Posted on 1/11/11 at 9:28 am to Cajun Revolution
I don't mind an 8 win season. The fans are just spoiled and have super high perfect expectations. If he would have fired Crowton in the first place, he wouldn't be under so much heat.
Posted on 1/11/11 at 9:28 am to The312
This thread certainly brought out the mental midgets. Les isnt asking for support of perpetual 8 win seasons. Just understanding that they happen and support from the athletic department. Miles has already proven he can turn the program around from an 8 win season. The same fans that said he couldn't do it after '08 still won't give him any credit for turning things around. That is just unreasonable.
If you don't understand what Les is asking for here then you either don't want to or you are a total frickin moron. I'm going with the latter.
If you don't understand what Les is asking for here then you either don't want to or you are a total frickin moron. I'm going with the latter.
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