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re: To all the negatigers who have suddenly resurfaced....

Posted on 11/30/10 at 3:11 pm to
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
14679 posts
Posted on 11/30/10 at 3:11 pm to
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I don't think people are upset about our record... or even how we won those games, but I do think that our inability to dominate weaker teams and improve our offense is a good reason to be mad. Waiting week after week for LSU to "turn it on" and never seeing it sucked. I wasn't happy about paying to watch the ULM game and still not seeing an offensive performance.

Exactly right. There seem to be two schools of thought. One is that it doesn't matter as long as we win. This group points to a 10-2 record and claims that it's unrealistic to expect better than that every year -- and this is true. Since this group is only concerned about the final record, they characterize the other school as unsatisfied that we don't go undefeated year after year.

The other school is willing to drill a little deeper and look at the process rather than just the results. This school of thought sees that within those 10 wins were several that could easily have gone the other way if not for some lucky breaks. They acknowledge that it's better to be lucky than good but you can't always count on luck. They also see that there is a lot of room for improvement. They say that while 10-2 is certainly very respectable, it could have been better.

Neither are positive and neither are negative, they just differ in that one is results-oriented and the other is process-oriented.
Posted by LSUandAU
Key West, FL & Malibu (L.A.), CA
Member since Apr 2009
5082 posts
Posted on 11/30/10 at 3:16 pm to
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one is results-oriented and the other is process-oriented.


This sounds like MBA "speak"
Posted by TigerFan128
Member since Oct 2010
507 posts
Posted on 11/30/10 at 3:20 pm to
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Exactly right. There seem to be two schools of thought. One is that it doesn't matter as long as we win. This group points to a 10-2 record and claims that it's unrealistic to expect better than that every year --


complete bs....10-2 is a good record. Fully aware there were close games that should not have been close due to mistakes, and some just because the competition was good. Could just as easily gone 12-0 with a break or two.....

People like me, who think 10-2 is very good, as is 61-17, probably dive deeper into the overall team performance than people like you only looking to point out negatives. While LSU is struggling on offense, they are very good on defense and special teams, period. Not unrealistic at all to expect better than 10-2 when the right players, schedule and everything else comes together....most expected 7-5 and 8-4 before the season....and thought 10-2 would have been a hell of a year.....but now they only want to focus on all of the negative.

The two schools of thought are like this. The realistic ones who appreciate 10-2 realize we have a lot of room for improvement, and with the right moves lsu just may continue to improve for the third year in a row and have a VERY SPECIAL year next year...they appreciate what it took to get to 10-2 this year given the schedule and the offensive woes.

the other school focuses only on the negative, ignores the record, ignores the positive improvement on d the last two years, and the strong special team play....they only want to focus on the negative and try and blame any and everyone in sight, and complain about not being a factor in the sec anymore, and a program on decline, and the 90th ranked offense.....pretty fricking sad to live a negative life like that...
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
14679 posts
Posted on 11/30/10 at 3:22 pm to
Ok, so reading comprehension isn't your long suit. Sorry. I tried.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 11/30/10 at 3:25 pm to
I do enjoy how if you do not agree with this alter it means you are either "young" or "uneducated"
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
14679 posts
Posted on 11/30/10 at 3:26 pm to
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This sounds like MBA "speak"

You'd have thought he would understand it better in that case.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
204225 posts
Posted on 11/30/10 at 4:18 pm to
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...i assure you he would blow saban if given the opportunity




WOW!!!!!!




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but how sad to spend your days posting so much...


You should consider this.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
204225 posts
Posted on 11/30/10 at 4:21 pm to
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Fully aware there were close games that should not have been close due to mistakes, and some just because the competition was good. Could just as easily gone 12-0 with a break or two.....





And could have gone 7-5 without a break or two. Get real man.





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they are very good on defense and special teams, period




Didn't see this saturday. Or against AU. Or against Ole Miss.
Posted by lsuexpert57
Back Brusly
Member since Oct 2008
1605 posts
Posted on 11/30/10 at 4:51 pm to
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And could have gone 7-5 without a break or two. Get real man.


The problem I have is with those that always want to play the "what if" game.

Well what if Brandon Taylor wouldn't have gotten hurt against Bama and we had him for the Arky game. You don't think he would have made a difference on those two long pass plays?

What if Ridley doesn't have his only two fumbles of the year against UNC? That game is a blowout instead of coming down to the wire.

Those that play the "what if" game always play it only one way, That is why we call them "negatigers". Play the game both ways or don't play it at all.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
204225 posts
Posted on 11/30/10 at 4:55 pm to
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What if Ridley doesn't have his only two fumbles of the year against UNC? That game is a blowout instead of coming down to the wire.




A win is a win RIGHT???? Sounds like you need a blowout.




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You don't think he would have made a difference on those two long pass plays?





You never know. The Offense DIDN'T SHOW UP. That is NOT a what if.



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Those that play the "what if" game always play it only one way



I play it both ways HOMER.



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Play the game both ways or don't play it at all.



This is what chaps my arse about CERTAIN LSU fans. Either agree with you [even if you are wrong] Or get deemed a negatiger.
Posted by avondale88
Montgomery
Member since May 2009
2634 posts
Posted on 11/30/10 at 5:00 pm to
TigerFan, you're correct on your assessment of the people who always post the negative and not the positive on issues concerning LSU. These are the same people who bitch about day games and what bowl LSU will play in, yet probably do not attend LSU games or the bowl that LSU will be in.
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 11/30/10 at 5:20 pm to
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get deemed a negatiger


Kinda like state before the season that you see no reason the the team will not be as or more successful than 09, support the coach with the best winning percentage in modern history, and be deemed a sunshine pumper, huh.

Posted by TigerFan128
Member since Oct 2010
507 posts
Posted on 11/30/10 at 5:28 pm to
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I play it both ways HOMER.


that explains a lot...lmao
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
204225 posts
Posted on 11/30/10 at 5:33 pm to
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that explains a lot...lmao


You like to spin shite, BUT you always seem to quote some of what I say and NOT the relevant parts. Just what suits you. LSU could have been 7-5 and if you can't see that then you are the fool here. Sure they could have been 12-0, Bur they were closer to being 7-5 then 12-0.
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