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Posted on 11/26/10 at 10:30 am
Posted by cementer
Mo City La
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 11/26/10 at 10:30 am
How does Mack Brown keep his job in Texas .. I mean he has the whole state of Texas to pick from . What this tells me is the Coaching is not there .....
Posted by thebert4130
baton rouge
Member since Nov 2007
1612 posts
Posted on 11/26/10 at 10:32 am to
dude no. he won a national championship, lost another, and has had like 8 10-win seasons in a row. he also pretty much gets the kids he wants in texas and gets to cherry pick the rest of the country. he gets a pass this year.
This post was edited on 11/26/10 at 10:34 am
Posted by Malaysian Tiger
Manila
Member since May 2008
4732 posts
Posted on 11/26/10 at 10:32 am to
To keep his job he will probably have to Fire the OC and DC and probably very soon!!!
Posted by Tigerbait337
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2008
20535 posts
Posted on 11/26/10 at 10:35 am to
quote:

To keep his job he will probably have to Fire the OC and DC and probably very soon!!!


Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
116670 posts
Posted on 11/26/10 at 10:38 am to
I can't think of another team that went 5-7 with every recruiting class being in the top 10.

If Texas didn't have a top 10 recruiting class in the last 4 years please let me know and I shall stand corrected.
Posted by Stromile Swift
Houston
Member since Sep 2003
43195 posts
Posted on 11/26/10 at 10:40 am to
Davis should be sent packing very soon, but Muschamp isn't going any where.
Posted by ATLwreck
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2008
5558 posts
Posted on 11/26/10 at 10:41 am to
quote:

I can't think of another team that went 5-7 with every recruiting class being in the top 10.
UGA has a chance to do that this year except they lucked out and have Tech to end the year with
Posted by ItTakesAThief
Scottsdale, Arizona
Member since Dec 2009
10303 posts
Posted on 11/26/10 at 10:45 am to

He has a lot of credibility and a few mulligans built up over the years.

If this happens a couple years in a row, he will be in big trouble.

He will have a couple of years to turn it around.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465366 posts
Posted on 11/26/10 at 10:46 am to
quote:

How does Mack Brown keep his job in Texas

1. he built up the football team from mediocrity to elite
2. he built up the athletic department into the #1 economic force in CFB
3. he built up fanfare with the boosters, and Texas gets a shite-ton of donations now every year from their TAF
4. his team was in the NC game a year ago and was a count's hair away the year before
5. he owns texas recruiting, for the most part
6. his program is relatively clean. a few bad apples like kindle had shite covered up, but that's about it
7. he's an amazing face for the athletic department

i think he's in the top 5 of "does less with more" (on the field), but he's a force for that athletic department. he makes UT a ton of fricking money and at the end of the day, that's what counts. it's not all about wins and losses in an individual year
This post was edited on 11/26/10 at 10:48 am
Posted by GWfool
Member since Aug 2010
2399 posts
Posted on 11/26/10 at 10:53 am to
quote:

i think he's in the top 5 of "does less with more" (on the field),


The whole post was good, but this is absolutely spot on. If you look at his teams they are just not tough. There is no reason for he team to be as bad as they are at the line of scrimmage. There is a clear lack of toughness and physicality on this team.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465366 posts
Posted on 11/26/10 at 10:55 am to
i agree, and it works b/c he's in the big12, which on the whole is soft, and has been for years

but mack brown prints money

i'm sure if he could stay there for 20 years, UT could create its own currency
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
58668 posts
Posted on 11/26/10 at 10:55 am to
All coaches have had bad years. He will turn out around, will probably have to make some changes to his staff thou
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465366 posts
Posted on 11/26/10 at 10:59 am to
UT doesn't usually have problems of this scale, but they always have a "year off after their successful QB regimes

they have to transition the offense to fit the QB

their OL is a mess, and hasn't been elite in a while. i think the coaching/scheming has a "little of dis, little of dat" mentality and the OL was just fricked from the get go. add in recruiting/development failures and you got what they have

they abandoned RBs as they moved to a spread under mccoy, so they're having to build that stable again

UT is also known for simply producing "soft" players. it's just the atmosphere/mentality
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
51306 posts
Posted on 11/26/10 at 11:18 am to
quote:

it's just the atmosphere/mentality



Mack Brown has the media in his pocket and the players are sheltered from any sort of criticism.
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
130372 posts
Posted on 11/26/10 at 11:26 am to
quote:

5. he owns texas recruiting, for the most part



And they still don't have a legit RB since Jamaal Charles left.


Posted by BenDover
Member since Jul 2010
5547 posts
Posted on 11/26/10 at 11:26 am to
quote:

To keep his job he will probably have to Fire the OC and DC and probably very soon!!!


9 out of 10 of Texas' best offensive seasons have come under Greg Davis. I think he'll get the boot this year, but I don't really think he should. Texas is a REALLY young team and everything starts with their piss-poor O-line. Give them two years and they'll be in the top 10 again. It's also amazing that they can miss a bowl and still have the number 1 recruiting class in the nation.

Also, Texas is absolutely not getting rid of Muschamp. The only way they lose him is if UGA comes calling for him to be their head coach, and I have a feeling he'd take it.
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
55563 posts
Posted on 11/26/10 at 12:24 pm to
I'm not even convinced Davis gets the boot. I think they'll fire lesser guys like the WR, RB and OL coaches (examples) and tout Greg's record/friendship with Mack.
Posted by BenDover
Member since Jul 2010
5547 posts
Posted on 11/26/10 at 12:26 pm to
quote:

I'm not even convinced Davis gets the boot. I think they'll fire lesser guys like the WR, RB and OL coaches (examples) and tout Greg's record/friendship with Mack.

If it was my decision I would still keep him but he'd be on a hot seat for sure. The problem is all of the big time boosters and donors are all wanting him out.
Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
32680 posts
Posted on 11/26/10 at 12:34 pm to
quote:

they abandoned RBs as they moved to a spread under mccoy, so they're having to build that stable again


This is absolutely true. Though, I think it has more to do with the OL like you said above. Honestly, I think that LSU and Texas share this problem. You can't recruit OL to run the spread or option, and then a QB like GG or Lee (at LSU). If you are going to bring in a pro-style QB, you've got to recruit pro-style OL.

LSU and Texas need to figure out what they want to do and do that one thing. I know you are supposed to adjust to the players you have. But, it doesn't work when your offense has no identity because you have a good spread OL and a pro-style QB.

The biggest example of this is T-Bob. He's not too bad when we're running the option with JJ. But, when they expect him to block any D Lineman in the SEC straight-up with Lee back there, he gets destroyed.
This post was edited on 11/26/10 at 12:36 pm
Posted by Dr Drunkenstein
Washington DC
Member since May 2009
2918 posts
Posted on 11/26/10 at 1:22 pm to
Mack isn't going anywhere, Muschamp isn't going anywhere unless he wants to be a head coach somewhere and, as much as it hurts me to type this, Greg Davis isn't going anywhere. You have to fire Mack to get rid of Greg and that won't happen. A few position coaches will lose their jobs, specifically the o-line coach.

As far as the root cause, it isn't one thing. It is several things coming together.

#1 Greg Davis's offensive system works great with a running QB. Without one, it is, well, you saw the mes this season.

#2 GG is not a good QB. He will never be a good college QB. I could back this up with examples/facts/stats but it seems like overkill on an LSU board.

#3 In terms of recruiting, for the last few years, Texas has gone after the wrong kids in terms of o-linemen, DTs and Safeties. This needs to get fixed quick or Mack will eventually lose his job.

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